ᐅ Smart Home Standard Roller Shutter Motors in New Construction?
Created on: 13 Jun 2021 16:05
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Simon-LHello everyone,
My girlfriend and I are currently in the middle of building our house. Since last week, the shell is basically weather-tight – roof on, windows installed! Unfortunately, there has been a misunderstanding with the window installer and, consequently, also with the electrician, and I’m a bit unsure how to solve this best.
I have been reading through the forum for a while now but feel somewhat overwhelmed 🤨
Here’s the situation:
The window installer installed Somfy ILMO WT motors as well as three "Roma Elero JA Soft blind motors." We didn’t know the exact model names beforehand and assumed the motors could be controlled wirelessly, as this was our understanding during the consultation. Unfortunately, this is not the case, and we are left with standard motors.
The electrician, during the rough-in, pulled all the necessary cables from the distribution board through the ceiling to each room and installed several empty conduits inside the rooms.
There is no direct connection from the blinds to the distribution board; instead, there is only an empty conduit running from each blind to the door.
Now the question is, how can we implement a proper, up-to-date control system with moderate effort and without extremely high costs?
We don’t want to have to operate everything manually all the time...
Do we need a bus system? And can this still be properly wired? Is there a simpler way?
I have also come across flush-mounted receivers, but as I understand it, we would need a switch for each blind.
Or should we even replace the motors?! (Assuming we will have to bear the costs ourselves!)
What we would actually like:
- Standard pushbuttons to control the blinds in SOME rooms, but not all.
(Bedrooms, study, living room for the patio door… but not, for example, in the bathroom or stairwell)
- Time-based control of all blinds/shutters (up in the morning, down in the evening)
- A remote control (or even an app), so we can still operate each blind individually if needed
Thanks in advance! 🙂
Best regards
Simon
My girlfriend and I are currently in the middle of building our house. Since last week, the shell is basically weather-tight – roof on, windows installed! Unfortunately, there has been a misunderstanding with the window installer and, consequently, also with the electrician, and I’m a bit unsure how to solve this best.
I have been reading through the forum for a while now but feel somewhat overwhelmed 🤨
Here’s the situation:
The window installer installed Somfy ILMO WT motors as well as three "Roma Elero JA Soft blind motors." We didn’t know the exact model names beforehand and assumed the motors could be controlled wirelessly, as this was our understanding during the consultation. Unfortunately, this is not the case, and we are left with standard motors.
The electrician, during the rough-in, pulled all the necessary cables from the distribution board through the ceiling to each room and installed several empty conduits inside the rooms.
There is no direct connection from the blinds to the distribution board; instead, there is only an empty conduit running from each blind to the door.
Now the question is, how can we implement a proper, up-to-date control system with moderate effort and without extremely high costs?
We don’t want to have to operate everything manually all the time...
Do we need a bus system? And can this still be properly wired? Is there a simpler way?
I have also come across flush-mounted receivers, but as I understand it, we would need a switch for each blind.
Or should we even replace the motors?! (Assuming we will have to bear the costs ourselves!)
What we would actually like:
- Standard pushbuttons to control the blinds in SOME rooms, but not all.
(Bedrooms, study, living room for the patio door… but not, for example, in the bathroom or stairwell)
- Time-based control of all blinds/shutters (up in the morning, down in the evening)
- A remote control (or even an app), so we can still operate each blind individually if needed
Thanks in advance! 🙂
Best regards
Simon
You can always switch to radio control later on.
Of course, it’s unfortunate that you received different motors. What’s the point of that mess?
Have the switches installed exactly where you need them and connect them to the roller shutters. Obviously, you already have conduit pipes.
It would have been great if the electrician had wired the motors in a star configuration.
What you can still do now is have built-in (flush-mounted) transmitters/receivers from a preferred manufacturer installed to operate the roller shutters.
A bus system would be ideal, but that ship has basically sailed.
Of course, it’s unfortunate that you received different motors. What’s the point of that mess?
Have the switches installed exactly where you need them and connect them to the roller shutters. Obviously, you already have conduit pipes.
It would have been great if the electrician had wired the motors in a star configuration.
What you can still do now is have built-in (flush-mounted) transmitters/receivers from a preferred manufacturer installed to operate the roller shutters.
A bus system would be ideal, but that ship has basically sailed.
Thanks for the quick reply!
We have standard roller shutters everywhere except in the living room, where we are using venetian blinds. According to the window installer, different motors are needed for those, which is why he installed the ones from Roma.
How exactly can you still retrofit to radio control without changing the motors? I’ve seen that retrofit kits are available, but they seemed extremely expensive to me. Apparently, there are also several different types. Do you happen to have any recommendations?
A bus cable could still be routed under the floor – the screed hasn’t been laid yet. But I’m not sure if that’s a good idea. It would certainly be possible somehow, but complicated and time-consuming. I assume the costs for the bus system and electrician would also be quite high.
For flush-mounted transmitters/receivers, you would really need a switch everywhere, which we actually don’t want – that would probably be the last resort.
We have standard roller shutters everywhere except in the living room, where we are using venetian blinds. According to the window installer, different motors are needed for those, which is why he installed the ones from Roma.
How exactly can you still retrofit to radio control without changing the motors? I’ve seen that retrofit kits are available, but they seemed extremely expensive to me. Apparently, there are also several different types. Do you happen to have any recommendations?
A bus cable could still be routed under the floor – the screed hasn’t been laid yet. But I’m not sure if that’s a good idea. It would certainly be possible somehow, but complicated and time-consuming. I assume the costs for the bus system and electrician would also be quite high.
For flush-mounted transmitters/receivers, you would really need a switch everywhere, which we actually don’t want – that would probably be the last resort.
No, you don’t need switches everywhere for flush-mounted (UP) receivers. The name already indicates that they are installed under the surface.
How you control them is up to you, for example with wall-mounted transmitters, by phone, voice control, or even the old-fashioned way with a remote control.
Regarding the motors, he should have installed the others everywhere then.
How you control them is up to you, for example with wall-mounted transmitters, by phone, voice control, or even the old-fashioned way with a remote control.
Regarding the motors, he should have installed the others everywhere then.
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