ᐅ Small Plot, Narrow Driveway – Required Space for Turning Around
Created on: 23 Sep 2023 08:06
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Bauen1899
Hello everyone,
We have purchased a backland plot in the city and would like to start building on it now.
Our problem is the 3-meter (10 feet) wide and 25-meter (82 feet) long driveway.
As can be seen in the picture, a swept path curve has already been drawn to the lower area, so that we can reach the 90-degree, also 3-meter (10 feet) wide driveway in front of the house.
However, we don’t want to have to back out of this long driveway forever and definitely want an option to turn around both from the garage at the top and from the parking space in front of the house below.
Since the plot is already small and we want to keep as much garden space as possible, we are reluctant to move the house further east.
Are there also reverse swept path curves that show the driving route?
How much space do we need? Is the swept path already drawn sufficient to turn around with a single maneuver?
Personally, I see the problem more from the garage at the top than from the parking space. Do you agree?
We need to split the front part of the plot soon, and therefore we have to determine exactly how much space we require.
Our car is an Opel Astra (approximately 4.4 meters (14.4 feet) long).
Or do you think a diagonal line would even be more practical?
Thank you all in advance for any help and feedback.
We have purchased a backland plot in the city and would like to start building on it now.
Our problem is the 3-meter (10 feet) wide and 25-meter (82 feet) long driveway.
As can be seen in the picture, a swept path curve has already been drawn to the lower area, so that we can reach the 90-degree, also 3-meter (10 feet) wide driveway in front of the house.
However, we don’t want to have to back out of this long driveway forever and definitely want an option to turn around both from the garage at the top and from the parking space in front of the house below.
Since the plot is already small and we want to keep as much garden space as possible, we are reluctant to move the house further east.
Are there also reverse swept path curves that show the driving route?
How much space do we need? Is the swept path already drawn sufficient to turn around with a single maneuver?
Personally, I see the problem more from the garage at the top than from the parking space. Do you agree?
We need to split the front part of the plot soon, and therefore we have to determine exactly how much space we require.
Our car is an Opel Astra (approximately 4.4 meters (14.4 feet) long).
Or do you think a diagonal line would even be more practical?
Thank you all in advance for any help and feedback.
WilderSueden schrieb:
360 sqm (3875 sq ft) is not the size of a detached house; that is typical for semi-detached houses.Your suggestion would at least allow the desired 150 sqm (1615 sq ft) to be built in a less tower-like way. Essentially, what is planned here is more like a detached townhouse, and your proposal for a semi-detached house would mean one less window-facing side, but more private garden space and less paved area.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Well, the disadvantages of a semi-detached house cannot be denied, and even if you could convince yourself, your building partner would also have to agree. So, I see little chance there.
Still, trying to divide this tiny plot into two garden zones seems unnecessary to me. What external dimensions are you envisioning for your house? And a related question: do you really want to live on three levels just to squeeze a sandbox into a corner? With a narrow house of 8m (26 feet), you would only get about a 3m (10 feet) south-facing terrace. So, you need a length of about 12m (39 feet) to design a practical house. Otherwise, you build upwards and spend your life going up and down two staircases. Personally, I’d rather skip the sandbox.
Still, trying to divide this tiny plot into two garden zones seems unnecessary to me. What external dimensions are you envisioning for your house? And a related question: do you really want to live on three levels just to squeeze a sandbox into a corner? With a narrow house of 8m (26 feet), you would only get about a 3m (10 feet) south-facing terrace. So, you need a length of about 12m (39 feet) to design a practical house. Otherwise, you build upwards and spend your life going up and down two staircases. Personally, I’d rather skip the sandbox.
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WilderSueden26 Sep 2023 23:21K a t j a schrieb:
Well, the disadvantages of a semi-detached house can’t just be ignored, and even if you might be convinced yourself, the building partner would also have to agree. So I see little chance there. On the other hand, I get the impression that these two are determined to pursue the dream of a detached single-family house at any cost, even if in the end nothing remains of what defines a detached house. Let’s just hope they both understand this clearly and don’t face a harsh reality after moving in.
@K a t j a and I planned a similar house about six months ago. It was also a small plot with a driveway on the southern side. Do you remember, @K a t j a? (There had to be space for a piano)
However, the original thread starter realized back then that unnecessary space would have to be sacrificed in favor of parking and turning areas, or at least greatly reduced.
However, the original thread starter realized back then that unnecessary space would have to be sacrificed in favor of parking and turning areas, or at least greatly reduced.
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Benutzer 100127 Sep 2023 05:19I’m also wondering what makes a 2.5-story tower unusual; that’s actually a common size, especially with measurements of 11 x 8 meters (36 x 26 feet).
The idea of keeping the parking spaces in front is okay, but somehow the car feels disconnected from the house. It becomes inconvenient when you want to do any work on it, clean it, or carry things in and out.
Of course, 360 m² (3,875 sq ft) is quite a small area, but it’s manageable. I have two neighbors who have similar setups, and having one meter more or less distance from the neighbor doesn’t really increase your privacy.
@hanghaus2023 has, for example, a good solution: if you want a double garage, otherwise just a single one on the north side.
Maybe you could even rotate the house and position it along the eastern property line, if there is no required roof ridge direction, so you get more of the western sunlight in the evening.
The idea of keeping the parking spaces in front is okay, but somehow the car feels disconnected from the house. It becomes inconvenient when you want to do any work on it, clean it, or carry things in and out.
Of course, 360 m² (3,875 sq ft) is quite a small area, but it’s manageable. I have two neighbors who have similar setups, and having one meter more or less distance from the neighbor doesn’t really increase your privacy.
@hanghaus2023 has, for example, a good solution: if you want a double garage, otherwise just a single one on the north side.
Maybe you could even rotate the house and position it along the eastern property line, if there is no required roof ridge direction, so you get more of the western sunlight in the evening.
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