ᐅ Small Plot, Narrow Driveway – Required Space for Turning Around
Created on: 23 Sep 2023 08:06
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Bauen1899
Hello everyone,
We have purchased a backland plot in the city and would like to start building on it now.
Our problem is the 3-meter (10 feet) wide and 25-meter (82 feet) long driveway.
As can be seen in the picture, a swept path curve has already been drawn to the lower area, so that we can reach the 90-degree, also 3-meter (10 feet) wide driveway in front of the house.
However, we don’t want to have to back out of this long driveway forever and definitely want an option to turn around both from the garage at the top and from the parking space in front of the house below.
Since the plot is already small and we want to keep as much garden space as possible, we are reluctant to move the house further east.
Are there also reverse swept path curves that show the driving route?
How much space do we need? Is the swept path already drawn sufficient to turn around with a single maneuver?
Personally, I see the problem more from the garage at the top than from the parking space. Do you agree?
We need to split the front part of the plot soon, and therefore we have to determine exactly how much space we require.
Our car is an Opel Astra (approximately 4.4 meters (14.4 feet) long).
Or do you think a diagonal line would even be more practical?
Thank you all in advance for any help and feedback.
We have purchased a backland plot in the city and would like to start building on it now.
Our problem is the 3-meter (10 feet) wide and 25-meter (82 feet) long driveway.
As can be seen in the picture, a swept path curve has already been drawn to the lower area, so that we can reach the 90-degree, also 3-meter (10 feet) wide driveway in front of the house.
However, we don’t want to have to back out of this long driveway forever and definitely want an option to turn around both from the garage at the top and from the parking space in front of the house below.
Since the plot is already small and we want to keep as much garden space as possible, we are reluctant to move the house further east.
Are there also reverse swept path curves that show the driving route?
How much space do we need? Is the swept path already drawn sufficient to turn around with a single maneuver?
Personally, I see the problem more from the garage at the top than from the parking space. Do you agree?
We need to split the front part of the plot soon, and therefore we have to determine exactly how much space we require.
Our car is an Opel Astra (approximately 4.4 meters (14.4 feet) long).
Or do you think a diagonal line would even be more practical?
Thank you all in advance for any help and feedback.
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Bauen189925 Sep 2023 08:37Hi everyone,
Attached is an overview of the site plan zoomed out a bit more...
I think I have found a solution. We will simply drive into the driveway, then turn around in the curve and reverse into the garage. This shouldn’t be a problem, but of course, I will test it again.
Yes, the site plan is oriented to true north.
The idea of moving the house further to the right (east) was also very interesting, and we have discussed it. However, the house shown will be parked in the designated garage, and another vehicle will be parked in front of the house. We also want to have our small terrace facing southwest and ideally just garden space for playing on the east side.
The suggestion to move the house would almost completely eliminate garden space for playing. It might be an optical illusion in the drawing, but from the south-facing house wall to the end of the property at the bottom, it’s only about 6 meters (20 feet). If you then add a terrace over 3 meters (10 feet) deep, that’s pretty much it.
Attached is an overview of the site plan zoomed out a bit more...
I think I have found a solution. We will simply drive into the driveway, then turn around in the curve and reverse into the garage. This shouldn’t be a problem, but of course, I will test it again.
Yes, the site plan is oriented to true north.
The idea of moving the house further to the right (east) was also very interesting, and we have discussed it. However, the house shown will be parked in the designated garage, and another vehicle will be parked in front of the house. We also want to have our small terrace facing southwest and ideally just garden space for playing on the east side.
The suggestion to move the house would almost completely eliminate garden space for playing. It might be an optical illusion in the drawing, but from the south-facing house wall to the end of the property at the bottom, it’s only about 6 meters (20 feet). If you then add a terrace over 3 meters (10 feet) deep, that’s pretty much it.
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Bauen189925 Sep 2023 09:02One more addition:
If we really plan to back our Opel Astra into the garage, how wide do you think the garage opening should be to comfortably reverse in? (Opel Astra - 1.85 meters (6.1 feet) wide) The house would then need to be shifted slightly to the south, which would reduce the patio area, but constantly being annoyed by a small garage wouldn’t be ideal either.
If we really plan to back our Opel Astra into the garage, how wide do you think the garage opening should be to comfortably reverse in? (Opel Astra - 1.85 meters (6.1 feet) wide) The house would then need to be shifted slightly to the south, which would reduce the patio area, but constantly being annoyed by a small garage wouldn’t be ideal either.
Bauen1899 schrieb:
How large should the garage opening be to comfortably reverse in (Opel Astra – 1.85 meters (6.1 feet) wide)? You might not even know your future cars yet,
so go for a garage with standard dimensions of 3 x 6 meters (10 x 20 feet), with a standard door.
The right-angled exit onto the 6-meter (20 feet) wide street isn’t easy either if a car is parked opposite.
Bauen1899 schrieb:
Attached is the location zoomed out even more...It still hasn’t become significantly clearer, unfortunately. I fear that 1. the green/pink boundary is meant to show the planned demarcation line between the front adjoining property and your building plot, and 2. you actually need two easements: one from the "front" through Grün’s garden for utility lines, and additionally, besides your access strip, another one from the "side" granting pedestrian and vehicle rights over Weiß’s driveway? (and of course 3. that you haven’t really read my previous post). This is quite frustrating, so I guess I’ll move on to the next, more cooperative person in the next room.
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hanghaus202325 Sep 2023 15:17Here is my suggestion.
The house with dimensions similar to the western neighbor. Then you can build a garage measuring 5.5 m * 6 m (18 ft * 20 ft).
The house with dimensions similar to the western neighbor. Then you can build a garage measuring 5.5 m * 6 m (18 ft * 20 ft).
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