ᐅ Single-family Home Without Basement – Floor Plan Discussion
Created on: 21 Apr 2018 10:46
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Saarländle
Hello everyone,
we have already made significant progress with our floor plan. However, we would like to open it up for discussion to see if you notice any aspects we might have overlooked and that can still be changed at this stage.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 534sqm (5748 sq ft)
Slope: no
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see plan
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable
Orientation: as shown in the plan
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: simple, open, practical
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 2 adults around 40 and 2 children aged 3 and 6
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: currently, most daily life happens on the ground floor
Office: family use or home office? Office and guest room or optional
Number of guest stays per year: 10
Open or closed layout: open
Open kitchen, kitchen island:
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: yes
Utility garden, greenhouse: possibly
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included
The idea behind the design was to have a large living-dining-kitchen area on the ground floor. At the same time, we definitely wanted a guest room/office on the ground floor as well.
The bathroom on the ground floor should serve not only as a guest bathroom but also help ease the morning routine by allowing simultaneous use of the bathrooms upstairs and downstairs.
House technology should take up as little space as possible on the ground floor and ideally be placed under the roof.
Upstairs, it was important that the children’s rooms are equally sized. The master bedroom should not have a walk-in closet.
The kitchen is currently just a placeholder. It will probably be designed as a U-shape.
Current open questions:
- Positioning and size of the windows
House design
Who created the plan:
- Architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
What do you dislike? Why?
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you had to give up, which details/extensions
- could you live without:
- could you absolutely not live without:
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
we have already made significant progress with our floor plan. However, we would like to open it up for discussion to see if you notice any aspects we might have overlooked and that can still be changed at this stage.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 534sqm (5748 sq ft)
Slope: no
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see plan
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable
Orientation: as shown in the plan
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: simple, open, practical
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 2 adults around 40 and 2 children aged 3 and 6
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: currently, most daily life happens on the ground floor
Office: family use or home office? Office and guest room or optional
Number of guest stays per year: 10
Open or closed layout: open
Open kitchen, kitchen island:
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: yes
Utility garden, greenhouse: possibly
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included
The idea behind the design was to have a large living-dining-kitchen area on the ground floor. At the same time, we definitely wanted a guest room/office on the ground floor as well.
The bathroom on the ground floor should serve not only as a guest bathroom but also help ease the morning routine by allowing simultaneous use of the bathrooms upstairs and downstairs.
House technology should take up as little space as possible on the ground floor and ideally be placed under the roof.
Upstairs, it was important that the children’s rooms are equally sized. The master bedroom should not have a walk-in closet.
The kitchen is currently just a placeholder. It will probably be designed as a U-shape.
Current open questions:
- Positioning and size of the windows
House design
Who created the plan:
- Architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
What do you dislike? Why?
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you had to give up, which details/extensions
- could you live without:
- could you absolutely not live without:
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Saarländle schrieb:
Maybe the architect after all Really, Manfred Adams?
ypg schrieb:
But you can skip the garage there So a carport instead of a garage, and the separate bowling alley passage is no longer necessary?
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11ant schrieb:
So a carport instead of a garage, and the separate corridor for the bowling alley is solved?No, I prefer to position the garage at the bottom right of the plan... that way, the corridor doesn’t come up at all.
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Saarländle5 May 2018 20:44Hello everyone,
We have been thinking over your suggestions and have explored different options, which I would like to share here. But honestly, none of the new concepts really convince us. Even worse, we are now unsure about our original design...
I understand that, purely based on the house orientation, it doesn't make much sense to place the secondary rooms facing south and the living areas rather to the north/west. In the meantime, we have discussed this with many people. I will summarize the different opinions as follows:
- The orientation of the rooms is not so crucial; much more important is the orientation of the terrace. The living areas would still receive enough light in the rear part of the house.
- Orienting the living rooms towards the sun often leads to them being shaded.
From this, two options have emerged for us. Either keep the garage on the left and try to mirror the layout so that the kitchen and dining area face the sunny side. This would still result in the same nice terrace area. However, the room behind the garage would probably have to be sacrificed to get more sunlight into the kitchen. Also, the staircase would need to be relocated, and in my opinion, this does not create a really coherent concept for the ground floor. (Variants 1-3)
Or move the garage to the right and mirror the entire house. (Variants 4 & 5) Then the rooms are nicely positioned on the sunny side, but the house no longer fits harmoniously on the plot and, subjectively, we feel a lot of space is wasted. Also, the nice southwest terrace area becomes significantly smaller. Furthermore, this would shift the house about 3 meters (10 feet) to the left, moving it much closer to the neighbor. Since we don’t know how the neighbor will build, this is certainly a risk...
I look forward to your comments.




We have been thinking over your suggestions and have explored different options, which I would like to share here. But honestly, none of the new concepts really convince us. Even worse, we are now unsure about our original design...
I understand that, purely based on the house orientation, it doesn't make much sense to place the secondary rooms facing south and the living areas rather to the north/west. In the meantime, we have discussed this with many people. I will summarize the different opinions as follows:
- The orientation of the rooms is not so crucial; much more important is the orientation of the terrace. The living areas would still receive enough light in the rear part of the house.
- Orienting the living rooms towards the sun often leads to them being shaded.
From this, two options have emerged for us. Either keep the garage on the left and try to mirror the layout so that the kitchen and dining area face the sunny side. This would still result in the same nice terrace area. However, the room behind the garage would probably have to be sacrificed to get more sunlight into the kitchen. Also, the staircase would need to be relocated, and in my opinion, this does not create a really coherent concept for the ground floor. (Variants 1-3)
Or move the garage to the right and mirror the entire house. (Variants 4 & 5) Then the rooms are nicely positioned on the sunny side, but the house no longer fits harmoniously on the plot and, subjectively, we feel a lot of space is wasted. Also, the nice southwest terrace area becomes significantly smaller. Furthermore, this would shift the house about 3 meters (10 feet) to the left, moving it much closer to the neighbor. Since we don’t know how the neighbor will build, this is certainly a risk...
I look forward to your comments.
Saarländle schrieb:
But honestly, none of the new designs really convince us.Me neither
Saarländle schrieb:
- The orientation of the rooms wouldn’t be that important, the orientation of the terrace is much more important.No
Saarländle schrieb:
The living spaces would also get enough light in the rear part of the house.No
Saarländle schrieb:
- Orienting the living areas toward the sun would usually result in them being shaded.No
I miss my suggested option of placing the garage on the east side, or whatever the bottom right option is, and orienting the living areas including the kitchen toward the sun. I don’t understand any of these quotes. Light inside the house, especially in the darker months, comes only from the southeast, south, or southwest. In summer it doesn’t really matter since there is enough daylight anyway. Terraces can be placed anywhere...
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Saarländle5 May 2018 22:57ypg schrieb:
I miss my mentioned option of placing the garage on the east side, Hello,
I understand that I am only allowed to build the garage within the building boundaries, right?
With plan v4, I might be able to move the garage 1–2 meters (3–6 feet) further forward, but then I reach the building boundary.
Saarländle schrieb:
Hello,
I am only allowed to build the garage within the building boundaries, right?
With plan v4, I might be able to move the garage 1-2 meters (3-6 feet) further forward, but then it reaches the building boundary. No, please refer to the state building regulations. Normally, garages are allowed to be built on the property boundary... but the exact rules are specified in the zoning plan.
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