Hello everyone,
after reading here for a while, I would now like to share our building plans for discussion.
Overall, we are quite happy with them, but there are a few points where we are not entirely sure.
Is the size of the utility room sufficient if it might later need to serve as a bathroom?
On the upper floor, the toilet might be moved into the bathroom – how could this be arranged in a practical way? A walk-in, masonry shower is a wish.
The area at the transition from the hallway to the living/dining room may not be ideal?
The living room should definitely be separable with a sliding door.
Maybe someone here has ideas about this or other points?
Here are the requested details; I hope they are sufficient:
Development plan not available
Location: south side = street side & driveway
west side = 1 neighbor
east side = existing own building
north side = undevelopable farmland
The plot slopes slightly from south to north
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: shallow pitched gable roof
Basement, floors: 2 full floors without roof slope, basement possibly with a separate apartment
Number of people, ages: currently 28, 30; later 2-3 children planned
Space requirements on ground and upper floor
Office: family use, possibly later as a bedroom
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open, no island
Number of dining seats: 10
Fireplace: wood-burning stove in the kitchen, Swedish stove in the living room
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, yes to terrace
Garage, carport: garage
Other wishes/special features/daily routine
Floors should possibly be usable later as separate apartments
Living room should be separable by sliding door
House design
Who designed the plan:
Licensed building technician
What do you particularly like?
Utility room accessible from the garage as a mudroom
Bedroom layout
What do you not like?
Toilet on the upper floor will probably be integrated into the bathroom
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: €350,000 with a lot of self-work “should be feasible”
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: about €400,000 with a lot of self-work (land already owned)
Preferred heating technology:
Heat pump, probably air source heat pump for cost reasons
after reading here for a while, I would now like to share our building plans for discussion.
Overall, we are quite happy with them, but there are a few points where we are not entirely sure.
Is the size of the utility room sufficient if it might later need to serve as a bathroom?
On the upper floor, the toilet might be moved into the bathroom – how could this be arranged in a practical way? A walk-in, masonry shower is a wish.
The area at the transition from the hallway to the living/dining room may not be ideal?
The living room should definitely be separable with a sliding door.
Maybe someone here has ideas about this or other points?
Here are the requested details; I hope they are sufficient:
Development plan not available
Location: south side = street side & driveway
west side = 1 neighbor
east side = existing own building
north side = undevelopable farmland
The plot slopes slightly from south to north
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: shallow pitched gable roof
Basement, floors: 2 full floors without roof slope, basement possibly with a separate apartment
Number of people, ages: currently 28, 30; later 2-3 children planned
Space requirements on ground and upper floor
Office: family use, possibly later as a bedroom
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open, no island
Number of dining seats: 10
Fireplace: wood-burning stove in the kitchen, Swedish stove in the living room
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, yes to terrace
Garage, carport: garage
Other wishes/special features/daily routine
Floors should possibly be usable later as separate apartments
Living room should be separable by sliding door
House design
Who designed the plan:
Licensed building technician
What do you particularly like?
Utility room accessible from the garage as a mudroom
Bedroom layout
What do you not like?
Toilet on the upper floor will probably be integrated into the bathroom
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: €350,000 with a lot of self-work “should be feasible”
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: about €400,000 with a lot of self-work (land already owned)
Preferred heating technology:
Heat pump, probably air source heat pump for cost reasons
Karl Toffel schrieb:
@ypg
This issue with the long route to the pantry is also causing me some headaches. Unfortunately, we haven’t yet found the "ultimate solution" here.
I would be reluctant to swap the living room and kitchen for several reasons, though. (no view from the kitchen to the driveway, poorer access to the garden, etc.)
Best regardsWhy? You actually have that already. The least time is spent at the sink; rather, the spot shown in the drawing—at the countertop and cooking island—is the main position. From there, you would have a wonderful view over the dining table toward the driveway, at an angle to the west garden.
Just give it a try (make a sketch)
K
Karl Toffel10 Jun 2015 09:45That's exactly right, definitely worth a try! Thank you!
Does anyone have suggestions regarding the layout of the granny flat?
I'm especially struggling with the kitchen here...
Does anyone have suggestions regarding the layout of the granny flat?
I'm especially struggling with the kitchen here...
K
Karl Toffel10 Jun 2015 10:50Doc.Schnaggls schrieb:
No, definitely not.
Our built-in wardrobe has exactly the same fronts on the back as on the front and the visible side.
The fronts on the back are just larger than the ones on the front because we don't have any doors there. If you're interested, I can take one or two pictures for you this evening and send them over.
Best regards,
DirkHello Dirk,
I completely missed your reply earlier...
It would be great if I could see a photo of that, the idea sounds really good!
Thanks!
Regarding the topic of age: I have unfortunately already experienced that such impairments can occur quickly and unexpectedly. That’s why we paid special attention to certain things, for example, the possibility of setting up a bedroom on the ground floor. Of course, you can’t prepare for every potential ailment that might arise.
We are simply trying to keep as many options open as possible.
For the basement apartment, the utility room could be removed. On the north side of the current utility room (to the right when entering), a larger cabinet could be installed for storage. Then, an L-shaped kitchen could be designed so that the short leg of the L extends slightly under the current stove area. The wall there would obviously need to be removed, while I would keep the short wall segment directly to the right of the entrance door for the coat rack.
The current "pantry" room could be made accessible from the outside and used as a cellar or storage room for the basement apartment; separate this from the rest of the cellar by removing the internal door.
The current "pantry" room could be made accessible from the outside and used as a cellar or storage room for the basement apartment; separate this from the rest of the cellar by removing the internal door.
K
Karl Toffel10 Jun 2015 11:27Hello marv45,
unfortunately, it is not possible to make the "storage" room accessible from the outside due to the site conditions.
This can be seen quite clearly on the "north elevation".
unfortunately, it is not possible to make the "storage" room accessible from the outside due to the site conditions.
This can be seen quite clearly on the "north elevation".
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