ᐅ Single-family house, two floor plan options from the architect
Created on: 4 Feb 2021 20:31
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Kathianni
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 662 sqm (7125 sq ft)
Slope no
Border development no
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 2
Roof type open
Architectural style undefined
Orientation south
Maximum heights/limits
Additional requirements
Homeowner Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type none
Basement, floors yes, 2
Number of residents, ages 4 persons, 35, 33, 3.0
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor approx. 70 sqm (750 sq ft) each
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Overnight guests per year 2-3
Open or closed architecture open
Conservative or modern construction modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island yes
Number of dining seats 6-8
Fireplace yes
Music/stereo wall no
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport yes, yes
Kitchen garden, greenhouse yes, no
House Design
Designed by: architect
- What do you particularly like? Why? Tunnel fireplace and the open kitchen, the dressing room with door to the bathroom
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 450,000
Personal budget limit for the house, including equipment: 600,000
Preferred heating system: pellets
Why was the design made this way? For example:
Standard design from planner? We expressed our wishes
Which of our wishes were implemented by the architect?
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Hello everyone. We worked on two versions with our architect and aren’t sure which we prefer. There is a stove bench next to the stove in both.
The windows throughout the house are not final yet; we still need to discuss them.
We plan to build a carport between the house and garage. Do you think the kitchen window makes sense even though it basically faces the carport? We think at least you can see the children playing and who is arriving.
To the east is a single-family house, to the south a large meadow, and to the west the street, which is very quiet since it is a rural area.
This is my first post; I hope I’ve done everything correctly—if not, please forgive me in advance.
Looking forward to your suggestions. Best regards
Plot size 662 sqm (7125 sq ft)
Slope no
Border development no
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 2
Roof type open
Architectural style undefined
Orientation south
Maximum heights/limits
Additional requirements
Homeowner Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type none
Basement, floors yes, 2
Number of residents, ages 4 persons, 35, 33, 3.0
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor approx. 70 sqm (750 sq ft) each
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Overnight guests per year 2-3
Open or closed architecture open
Conservative or modern construction modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island yes
Number of dining seats 6-8
Fireplace yes
Music/stereo wall no
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport yes, yes
Kitchen garden, greenhouse yes, no
House Design
Designed by: architect
- What do you particularly like? Why? Tunnel fireplace and the open kitchen, the dressing room with door to the bathroom
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 450,000
Personal budget limit for the house, including equipment: 600,000
Preferred heating system: pellets
Why was the design made this way? For example:
Standard design from planner? We expressed our wishes
Which of our wishes were implemented by the architect?
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Hello everyone. We worked on two versions with our architect and aren’t sure which we prefer. There is a stove bench next to the stove in both.
The windows throughout the house are not final yet; we still need to discuss them.
We plan to build a carport between the house and garage. Do you think the kitchen window makes sense even though it basically faces the carport? We think at least you can see the children playing and who is arriving.
To the east is a single-family house, to the south a large meadow, and to the west the street, which is very quiet since it is a rural area.
This is my first post; I hope I’ve done everything correctly—if not, please forgive me in advance.
Looking forward to your suggestions. Best regards
K
Kathianni6 Feb 2021 06:2811ant schrieb:
Okay, two points are clear now:
First, you can scrap the plan because corrections are necessary and anything after the comma won’t work, so a complete redesign is needed.
Second, your initial question is resolved or rather narrowed down to one answer by reducing the possible options.
Regarding the first point: If the multi-purpose room is not meant to be "just" a pantry, storage, or utility room, but also a "backup kitchen," then it is definitely too small. Increasing the width by half a meter (not depth!) will not nearly be enough to make the floor plan work. Using a soda maker instead of beverage crates is not a game-changer; this single point doesn’t solve the main issue.
Regarding the second point: In the new design, only the option with the fireplace against the exterior wall remains possible. You describe your husband as someone who reluctantly accepts the open-plan living area as a compromise. The L-shape of the living area could actually make this compromise easier for him if it weren’t for one critical drawback: because of the fireplace before the living area bends, what lies around the corner feels like an ambush—making him perceive the living space as uncomfortable. A deer cannot eat if it’s afraid, and this is a serious issue. In the revised design, the open-plan living area including its L-shape can remain, but the fireplace must be removed from this problematic position. If you have to redesign anyway, eliminate the Jekyll/Hyde double role and separate the messy pantry or kitchenette from the utility room. This multifunctional overload needs to be expanded from roughly five to at least twelve square meters in total to allow room to breathe.
What started as an apparently harmless question of options or preferences now turns out to be a narrowly avoided major design flaw in two crucial dimensions. This was more exciting than any crime thriller all week. Phew, honestly, I can’t quite follow you. We currently have an open layout in the existing house, and my husband wished for a sliding door but is also fine if it stays as is, especially since he has the large hobby basement where he or the kids can retreat. Having the kitchen around the corner and the stove separating him is actually exactly what he wants.
I know friends of mine who use the pantry exactly as a functional space like that and I found it great, so thank you for your effort. I really appreciate how deeply you’ve thought this through. I think we have different ways of thinking about this.
Best regards
The second bathroom door will probably look like this in reality: either you’re standing naked in front of the closed door because someone forgot to open the second door again, or you run into your children’s friend while naked because they didn’t think about the inconvenient second door.
I find the backup kitchen, dressing room, and home office too much for the floor plan.
Backup kitchen for what purpose? Integrated fitness area? Storage in the backup kitchen, sink in the kitchen, washing machine in the backup kitchen, bowls and pots where? Dressing room for 4 meters (13 feet) of wardrobe? Those wardrobe meters were once moved into the bedroom, creating a generous room as a result.
I would experiment a bit more. Fewer rooms, different staircase, different dimensions.
I find the backup kitchen, dressing room, and home office too much for the floor plan.
Backup kitchen for what purpose? Integrated fitness area? Storage in the backup kitchen, sink in the kitchen, washing machine in the backup kitchen, bowls and pots where? Dressing room for 4 meters (13 feet) of wardrobe? Those wardrobe meters were once moved into the bedroom, creating a generous room as a result.
I would experiment a bit more. Fewer rooms, different staircase, different dimensions.
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hampshire6 Feb 2021 09:53I find the many fundamental considerations very good. Due to the limited size of the building structure, these ideas can be realized, but none of them really well. For me, this is more of a practical compromise rather than giving up one or two wishes to consistently fulfill the others.
I would question the thin walls shown in the drawing; what is important in the end is the net room size.
My advice: review the list of requirements once more, discuss it, and prioritize it with the architect. They seem to listen well, even if their advice is not entirely clear. If necessary, reduce some client dominance and allow room for creativity.
I would question the thin walls shown in the drawing; what is important in the end is the net room size.
My advice: review the list of requirements once more, discuss it, and prioritize it with the architect. They seem to listen well, even if their advice is not entirely clear. If necessary, reduce some client dominance and allow room for creativity.
The idea of an open-plan living space isn’t the best if your husband feels disturbed when someone is working in the kitchen.
There’s a reason for the saying, “Mom, close the door, I can’t work if I can see you.” :p
Jokes aside, I also can’t watch TV in peace when the kids are having lively arguments with my wife in the kitchen. I have an open layout as well.
Back then, I found the large sliding door between the kitchen and living room in our apartment in MUC much better. But in the end, it was almost always left open anyway.
There’s a reason for the saying, “Mom, close the door, I can’t work if I can see you.” :p
Jokes aside, I also can’t watch TV in peace when the kids are having lively arguments with my wife in the kitchen. I have an open layout as well.
Back then, I found the large sliding door between the kitchen and living room in our apartment in MUC much better. But in the end, it was almost always left open anyway.
Kathianni schrieb:
Two of my friends have the exact same sliding door and a similar size, so that’s why I decided on it. Well, then you just have to have it :p
Kathianni schrieb:
As I said, friends too. Do they also have your house? The same floor plan? What about the others? Do they have it like that as well?
Just because a sweater looks good on my friend doesn’t mean it has to look good on me. It’s worth thinking about.
Sliding doors as everyday doors are not very comfortable. Trying to close them with your backside when your hands are full is not really an option.
But of course, you should be happy with your house – it’s hard to argue against “my friends have it too.”
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Kathianni6 Feb 2021 12:55ypg schrieb:
Well, then you obviously have to have that :p
Do they also have your house? Floor plan? What about the others? Do they have the same?
Just because a sweater looks good on my girlfriend doesn’t mean it has to look good on me. Just think about that.
Sliding doors are not exactly convenient as everyday doors. Trying to close them with your backside when your hands are full just doesn’t work.
But of course, you should be happy with your house – you really can’t argue with something like “my friends have that too.”What I mean is that I have tested this several times while cooking and found it very practical, so in my opinion, that should count as an argument.Similar topics