ᐅ Single-family house, two floor plan options from the architect

Created on: 4 Feb 2021 20:31

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 662 sqm (7125 sq ft)
Slope no
Border development no
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 2
Roof type open
Architectural style undefined
Orientation south
Maximum heights/limits
Additional requirements

Homeowner Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type none
Basement, floors yes, 2
Number of residents, ages 4 persons, 35, 33, 3.0
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor approx. 70 sqm (750 sq ft) each
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Overnight guests per year 2-3
Open or closed architecture open
Conservative or modern construction modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island yes
Number of dining seats 6-8
Fireplace yes
Music/stereo wall no
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport yes, yes
Kitchen garden, greenhouse yes, no

House Design
Designed by: architect
- What do you particularly like? Why? Tunnel fireplace and the open kitchen, the dressing room with door to the bathroom
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 450,000
Personal budget limit for the house, including equipment: 600,000
Preferred heating system: pellets

Why was the design made this way? For example:
Standard design from planner? We expressed our wishes
Which of our wishes were implemented by the architect?

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?

Hello everyone. We worked on two versions with our architect and aren’t sure which we prefer. There is a stove bench next to the stove in both.
The windows throughout the house are not final yet; we still need to discuss them.
We plan to build a carport between the house and garage. Do you think the kitchen window makes sense even though it basically faces the carport? We think at least you can see the children playing and who is arriving.
To the east is a single-family house, to the south a large meadow, and to the west the street, which is very quiet since it is a rural area.
This is my first post; I hope I’ve done everything correctly—if not, please forgive me in advance.

Looking forward to your suggestions. Best regards

House floor plan: Carport above, living area below with kitchen, hallway, pantry, laundry chute, and WC.

Upper floor plan: Master bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, corridor, guest room, 2 children's rooms.

Basement: hobby, technical, cellar rooms, utility, laundry, stairs

House floor plan with carport, cooking/dining, living, hallway, pantry, laundry chute, and WC.

Upper floor plan: corridor connects master bedroom, child 1, child 2, guest room, bathroom, and dressing room.

Basement floor plan with hobby and technical rooms, cellar rooms, and stairwell.

Plot 1, 662.47 sqm (7127 sq ft); garden, red building, double garage, parking spaces, dimension lines (site plan)

Kathianni5 Feb 2021 22:14

#13

ypg schrieb:

Hehe... For me, it started with “what about the roof pitch, then I’ll plan accordingly” 😉

Well then:
Ask yourself, what is the purpose of the second wing of the ground floor hallway? I thought about this because I questioned the pantry, especially that sliding door, which I rather saw opening from the hallway. Because what is the pantry for? Right: among other things, for beverage crates... and why should you carry those all around the building interior? Exactly! Door at the bottom of the plan.
The same applies to the dressing room upstairs: door at the bottom of the plan, then you can also eliminate the other space consumer (second door).
I find the children’s room size okay.
Since you are well within your budget, I would widen the house by at least 50cm (20 inches).
A house with dressing room and office under 140sqm (1507 sqft) has never been planned comfortably below 150sqm (1615 sqft).

The wing is there so that
1. the kitchen has a door and you don’t always have to go through the living room, which makes sense, right? And
2. my husband is not a big fan of the open floor plan, but compromises for me, and he thinks this way the kitchen is more separated from the living room. But I haven’t found a better solution for this, do you have any ideas?

I want the pantry to be accessible from the kitchen because the fridge, Thermomix, etc. will be there, basically as an extension of the kitchen for everything that looks untidy if left out. We don’t have beverage crates.

I imagine it’s very practical in the bathroom to have direct access from the dressing room; somehow I just can’t give that up ☺️

I also agree that the house should be widened a bit. Could we make it 25cm (10 inches) wider at the front and 25cm (10 inches) at the back? Then the bathroom and dressing room would benefit, and so would the living room. Or is it not that simple?

Thanks again for the discussion!

ypg5 Feb 2021 23:02

#14

Kathianni schrieb:

having a door to the kitchen so you don’t always have to go through the living room makes sense, right? And

You can design the kitchen door without a hallway and adjust the pantry slightly in size and shape.
A 60cm (24 inch) cabinet is sufficient for a thermos and similar items. Once appliances are moved to another room, they usually don’t come back out quickly.
While you open this sliding door, every second woman will have already diced an onion for you.
I just noticed that the kitchen windows are insufficient... the other windows could use a bit more character, which wouldn’t hurt.

11ant5 Feb 2021 23:51

#15

Kathianni schrieb:

2. My husband isn’t really a fan of the open floor plan, but he’s going along with it for my sake, and he feels that this way the kitchen is more separated from the living room. [...] I want the pantry to be accessible from the kitchen because the fridge, Thermomix, etc. will go in there, basically as an extension of the kitchen for everything that doesn’t look nice when left out. We don’t have any beverage crates.

Okay, two points are clear now:
First, you can toss the plan because corrections will be needed; what’s after the comma won’t work, so you need to redesign everything.
Second, your initial question is resolved or has basically answered itself by limiting the possible responses to one.

Regarding the first point: If the polyhybrid room is not just meant to be a storage pantry/ utility room but also a “backup kitchen,” it’s definitely far too small. Increasing the width by half a meter (not the depth!) will not nearly be enough to make the floor plan solution “work.” A SodaStream instead of beverage crates is not a decisive factor here; that one detail won’t change much overall.
Regarding the second point: In the new design, only the option with the fireplace located against the exterior wall remains feasible. You describe your husband as someone who only agrees to the open-plan space as a concession. The L-shape of the open area could actually make that concession easier for him, if it weren’t for one crucial drawback: with the fireplace positioned before the open space turns the corner, the part beyond the corner becomes a “blind spot,” making the room feel uncomfortable. Like a deer frozen by fear, no one can relax — that’s a serious issue. So in the revised design, the open-plan area as well as the L-shape can remain, but the fireplace must be removed from this problematic position. Since you have to redesign anyway, fix this right away and also eliminate the Jekyll/Hyde dual role by separating, for example, the storage pantry/kitchen extension but then having a separate laundry/utility room. You will need to decompress this multifunctional overload from just under five to at least twelve square meters (roughly 54 sq ft to 130 sq ft) overall.

What began as an apparently harmless matter of preferences has now revealed itself as a narrowly avoided planning error in two crucial dimensions. This turned out to be more exciting than every crime novel I read all week.

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Osnabruecker6 Feb 2021 04:21

#16

Overview/Location of the Garages:

This is shown differently in the site plan and the floor plan.

Are you allowed to position the garage this far forward?
- Visibility triangle for road users
- One car length in front of the garage for opening the door

Kathianni6 Feb 2021 06:20

#17

ypg schrieb:

You can design the kitchen door without a hallway and then adjust the pantry a bit in size and shape.
For thermal containers and similar items, a 60cm (24 inch) cabinet is sufficient. Once appliances are moved to another room, they usually don’t come back out quickly.
While you open this sliding door, every second woman has already chopped an onion for you.
I just noticed that the windows in the kitchen are too few... the other windows could definitely use a bit more character.

Thank you for your suggestions.
Two of my friends have exactly the same sliding door and a similar size, which is why I decided on it. I have tested the practicality several times.
Regarding the windows, definitely—I also want a fixed window in the kitchen facing north. I’m thinking of a narrow, rectangular one. Also to be able to watch the children in the yard, etc.

Kathianni6 Feb 2021 06:23

#18

ypg schrieb:

You can design the kitchen door without a hallway and then slightly adjust the size and shape of the pantry.
A 60cm (24 inches) cabinet is enough for appliances like the Thermomix and similar. Once these appliances are moved to another room, they’re unlikely to be taken out again soon.
By the time you open this sliding door, every second woman has already chopped an onion.
I just realized that there aren’t enough windows in the kitchen… the other windows could use a bit more character.

A kitchen door without a hallway—I’ve been thinking about this half the night (thanks to the baby)—and I just can’t figure out how that could work.

ᐅ Single-family house, two floor plan options from the architect

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