Hello everyone,
At our developer, a customer who had reserved a plot of land dropped out. Since the other plot faces south / southwest, we didn’t hesitate long and switched to that plot. The new plot is smaller, so we gave up on our bungalow dream. The plot number is 5.
To remind you: The plot is tied to the developer.
I have been thinking over the past few days about the arrangement and design of the rooms and the plot, and I would first like to know if the concept is okay. I am not concerned with details inside the rooms such as windows, doors, or bathroom design. That’s not possible anyway since I created the floor plan myself based on Gussek Haus floor plans. However, I tried to design it as well as possible. For this reason, I want to share the floor plan here for discussion. I’m mainly looking for feedback on the layout and room arrangement, as well as ideas, suggestions, or tips. Maybe you’ll also spot things that “just don’t work” or are not practical for everyday living.
I created the floor plan with RoomSketcher, but only used the free version, so many features are limited. Please ignore the room dimensions on the upper floor. There is a dormer in the area of the home office.
A few more details about the house.
Roof pitch 38°
Knee wall (Drempel) 100cm (39 inches)
External dimensions 12.85 x 9.60 m (42.2 x 31.5 feet) (enlarged, original dimensions of Gussek Haus models are smaller)
Unfortunately, I cannot show internal room dimensions because RoomSketcher does not allow it.
Attached again is the completed questionnaire.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 676m²
Slope: NO
Site coverage ratio: 0.4 (allowed exceedance 25 out of 100)
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: On the north side / south side approx. 20.5 m (67 feet) wide, west and east sides approx. 33 m (108 feet) wide, 3 m (10 feet) building setback on each side, rectangular plot, clearly visible in the pictures
Edge construction setback: 3 m (10 feet)
Number of parking spaces: no requirement
Number of stories: maximum 2 full stories
Roof style: Gable roof, hipped roof
Other requirements: Garage must be 5 m (16 feet) from the property boundary. Garage on the west side because the curb is lowered there.
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: Doesn’t matter, initially considered a house with a gable roof, there is a dormer in the home office area
Basement, number of floors: No basement due to high groundwater level
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people aged 36 (female), 37 (male), 3 (child), 1 (child)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor: Living/dining/kitchen area, utility room, guest WC with shower, hallway with coat area and stairs to upper floor, guest room / playroom
Upper floor: Master bedroom, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, storage room, office
Office use: Family use or home office? Home office combined with family use
Guests per year: 1–2 times
Open or closed architecture: Closed architecture?
Conservative or modern style: A mix of both
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Closed kitchen with island would be nice but not a must; open kitchen is also an option
Number of dining seats: 4, with the option for 6
Fireplace: No
Music / stereo wall: Sound system in the living room
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Space for 2 cars is required, preferably 3 to 4. Currently considering a garage (3 x 6 m / 9.8 x 19.7 feet) with a carport (3.6 m / 12 feet) in front, not sure if that works. Plus 2 parking spaces in front of the house.
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be:
House Design
Who created the design:
- DIY - copy and combination of Gussek Haus models Lindenallee, Kiefernallee variant 1, and Buchenallee variant 2
What do you especially like? Why?
- Large closed kitchen with island and direct / short access to the terrace
- Living room close to the terrace
- Guest / playroom on the ground floor
- Storage room on the upper floor with washing machine and dryer
- Utility room with washing machine and dryer (yes, twice)
- 6 rooms
- Layout of rooms on the upper floor
What do you not like? Why?
- Location of the home office on the upper floor is not ideal in my view, but I could live with it
Price estimate from architect/planner: No new estimate so far
Personal price limit for house including features: 400,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump
Why does the design look like it does now? For example:
Copy-paste of Gussek Haus models Lindenallee, Kiefernallee variant 1, and Buchenallee variant 2
What is the most important fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Is the room layout okay?
At our developer, a customer who had reserved a plot of land dropped out. Since the other plot faces south / southwest, we didn’t hesitate long and switched to that plot. The new plot is smaller, so we gave up on our bungalow dream. The plot number is 5.
To remind you: The plot is tied to the developer.
I have been thinking over the past few days about the arrangement and design of the rooms and the plot, and I would first like to know if the concept is okay. I am not concerned with details inside the rooms such as windows, doors, or bathroom design. That’s not possible anyway since I created the floor plan myself based on Gussek Haus floor plans. However, I tried to design it as well as possible. For this reason, I want to share the floor plan here for discussion. I’m mainly looking for feedback on the layout and room arrangement, as well as ideas, suggestions, or tips. Maybe you’ll also spot things that “just don’t work” or are not practical for everyday living.
I created the floor plan with RoomSketcher, but only used the free version, so many features are limited. Please ignore the room dimensions on the upper floor. There is a dormer in the area of the home office.
A few more details about the house.
Roof pitch 38°
Knee wall (Drempel) 100cm (39 inches)
External dimensions 12.85 x 9.60 m (42.2 x 31.5 feet) (enlarged, original dimensions of Gussek Haus models are smaller)
Unfortunately, I cannot show internal room dimensions because RoomSketcher does not allow it.
Attached again is the completed questionnaire.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 676m²
Slope: NO
Site coverage ratio: 0.4 (allowed exceedance 25 out of 100)
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: On the north side / south side approx. 20.5 m (67 feet) wide, west and east sides approx. 33 m (108 feet) wide, 3 m (10 feet) building setback on each side, rectangular plot, clearly visible in the pictures
Edge construction setback: 3 m (10 feet)
Number of parking spaces: no requirement
Number of stories: maximum 2 full stories
Roof style: Gable roof, hipped roof
Other requirements: Garage must be 5 m (16 feet) from the property boundary. Garage on the west side because the curb is lowered there.
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: Doesn’t matter, initially considered a house with a gable roof, there is a dormer in the home office area
Basement, number of floors: No basement due to high groundwater level
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people aged 36 (female), 37 (male), 3 (child), 1 (child)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor: Living/dining/kitchen area, utility room, guest WC with shower, hallway with coat area and stairs to upper floor, guest room / playroom
Upper floor: Master bedroom, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, storage room, office
Office use: Family use or home office? Home office combined with family use
Guests per year: 1–2 times
Open or closed architecture: Closed architecture?
Conservative or modern style: A mix of both
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Closed kitchen with island would be nice but not a must; open kitchen is also an option
Number of dining seats: 4, with the option for 6
Fireplace: No
Music / stereo wall: Sound system in the living room
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Space for 2 cars is required, preferably 3 to 4. Currently considering a garage (3 x 6 m / 9.8 x 19.7 feet) with a carport (3.6 m / 12 feet) in front, not sure if that works. Plus 2 parking spaces in front of the house.
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be:
House Design
Who created the design:
- DIY - copy and combination of Gussek Haus models Lindenallee, Kiefernallee variant 1, and Buchenallee variant 2
What do you especially like? Why?
- Large closed kitchen with island and direct / short access to the terrace
- Living room close to the terrace
- Guest / playroom on the ground floor
- Storage room on the upper floor with washing machine and dryer
- Utility room with washing machine and dryer (yes, twice)
- 6 rooms
- Layout of rooms on the upper floor
What do you not like? Why?
- Location of the home office on the upper floor is not ideal in my view, but I could live with it
Price estimate from architect/planner: No new estimate so far
Personal price limit for house including features: 400,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump
Why does the design look like it does now? For example:
Copy-paste of Gussek Haus models Lindenallee, Kiefernallee variant 1, and Buchenallee variant 2
What is the most important fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Is the room layout okay?
11ant schrieb:
You are so right: I really miss having photo links here, so the builder could have gotten inspired by your zigzag wall I should probably patent that—maybe it will soon become standard in all housesWürfel* schrieb:
I store my shopping basket, for example, with the empties (> pantry), Empty bottles, beverage crates, recycling bags—do they always have to be carried through the kitchen? The general flow of daily tasks (shopping, waste disposal, procurement) remains the same, but you don’t have to do all of it through the kitchen every time. The route to the exit is always through the hallway, the front door. We prefer to carry beverage crates, full or empty, only about 4 meters (13 feet) instead of 10 meters (33 feet) through half the house. It’s also important to differentiate between the pantry and the utility room. Personally, I would love to have a backup kitchen—that is, a pantry that could also be accessed from in front of the kitchen.
chrisw81 schrieb:
I once found a layout with just one side window and I don’t find it boring at all—if the wall is nicely designed, it can even feel more lively than having a window, in my opinion. Don’t compare 6 meters (20 feet) with 4 meters (13 feet)! Or panoramic fronts with standard patio doors.
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Chrisi190625 Apr 2020 08:48chrisw81 schrieb:
I found something like this with just one window on one side, and I don’t find it boring at all – if the wall is nicely designed, it can even appear more lively than having a window, in my opinion.
I really like that. I think the room looks bright. Light wallpaper and white window frames enhance that effect.
Würfel* schrieb:
It really looks great, I agree with you. But I bet there are windows on the side where the photographer is standing, because it’s so bright there. And maybe a third wall with shelves or photo collages.
Completely covering it with decorations might be a bit much though.
I like this one too, it’s quite similar. However, the living room in both pictures is much larger, so deeper!
What bothers me here is that you always have to watch the TV at an angle. Visually it’s still very nice though.
Chrisi1906 schrieb:
As I mentioned earlier, I’ll make some sketches based on the ideas here and my previous thoughts. I’ll share some options in the forum later, but it won’t be until this evening.Unfortunately, it took a bit longer than planned. Attached are the different ideas/variants.
Variant 1
This came from the planner. The goal is to improve the “problem” of lighting/ventilation in the staircase hallway. Once with a gallery and two skylight strips, and once without a gallery and one skylight strip.
In Staircase Skylight Strip 1, the roof window above the staircase is removed completely (the roof window in the storage room remains, even though it disappeared in one illustration), and the windows can be easily reached by hand to open and clean them. These windows are divided into two parts – the lower part is fixed glazed and acts as a fall protection; the upper part can be opened.
In Staircase Skylight Strip 2, the planner took up my suggestion to enlarge the ceiling opening. This means the stairwell is bigger and is designed so that a small gallery with a railing is created on the attic level. Of course, this reduces the storage room area, but I don’t see that as a big problem. I think both options with one or two skylight strips bring a lot of light and give the house a special character in any case. The second variant is quite elaborate but also unique and makes a good impression on me at first sight—at least based on the drawings.
What do you think of the solution(s)?
Advantages
- brings a lot of light into the ground and upper floors
- no attic window in the hallway of the upper floor, which is difficult to clean and reach
Disadvantages
- the front appearance of the house is probably a matter of taste
Variant 2
This is an idea of mine. We slightly change the ground floor layout and add a glazed double door from the living/dining area to the hallway. For the staircase, we again work with a gallery. The storage room in the attic loses some space, but that’s not a big issue. Unfortunately, the wardrobe is smaller due to the double door, which is more of a disadvantage for me. The entrance to the utility room is back in the kitchen, so the wardrobe is not as dark as in the design where you could enter the house walking left or right. The hallway upstairs gets light through the gallery and the small window from the ground floor. I think there’s basically enough natural light for the hallways on both floors. But don’t expect miracles!
Advantages:
- no attic window in the upper floor hallway, which is hard to clean and access
Disadvantages:
- only moderate lighting in the hallways of ground and upper floors
What do you think?
Variant 3
I revisited Drasleona’s idea after seeing it in a Danwood 181 house, which is very similar to our floor plan. I inserted it into our plan and tested it. The downside is that the guest WC becomes quite small (under 4 sqm (43 sq ft)). From a hygiene point of view, this solution is quite good. Due to the small guest WC, this variant is not suitable for us.
A combination of variants 1 and 2 would also be conceivable for me.
I find the window arrangement that rises with the staircase charming. However, my favorite is "Option 3 Original" – precisely because it is the "Original": I prefer an unchanged, proven model over a makeshift solution (especially when involving a reluctant developer).
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Chrisi190625 Apr 2020 20:4311ant schrieb:
I find the window arrangement that follows the staircase quite charming. However, my favorite is "Option 3 Original" – precisely because it is "Original": I prefer an unchanged, tried-and-tested model over a makeshift solution (especially one involving a developer reluctant to plan properly). Well, the corridor used only as a cloakroom is narrow. The door to the guest bathroom is narrow, and the utility room is the same. Option 2 is just as proven, as it is based on a similar floor plan. However, access to the utility room is not very practical in Option 2.
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