ᐅ Single-Family Home Design – Approximately 160–170 sqm / Innovative Gable Roof
Created on: 5 Jan 2019 23:43
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schwimbi
Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for several years because I am very interested in the topic of building (especially smart homes). Now that we have decided to actually build, I registered and would like to participate more actively in the discussions.
First of all, I would really appreciate feedback on our first draft for a single-family house.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft)
Slope: yes, approximately 1.5-2 m (5-6.5 ft) sloping to the south
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Gross floor area ratio (GFAR): 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary: Blue line, site plan
Edge development: garage allowed
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: Gable roof
Architectural style: Modern
Orientation: South
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft), max. building length 18 m (59 ft)
Other requirements:
According to the development plan, only gable roofs, staggered shed roofs, and hip roofs are permitted. However, we are trying to interpret the development plan creatively.
Excerpt from the development plan
12.1 Roof shape and pitch, covering and green roofs
Compared to the original plan, previous restrictions regarding green roofs will be relaxed. Freestanding garages are also allowed to have flat roofs, even if these are not greened.
For ecological reasons, solar panels on or integrated into the roof covering are generally permitted and explicitly encouraged. Therefore, when an integrated solar or photovoltaic solution is installed, roof coverings in darker colors are exceptionally allowed.
Homeowners’ requirements:
Pantry, basement, built-in masonry fireplace, built-in walk-in showers on ground and upper floors, laundry chute, direct access from the garage, no balcony but a terrace, double garage, kitchen island
Rooms on ground floor - office, living room, kitchen, dining room
Rooms on upper floor - 2 children’s rooms, bedroom, walk-in closet, bathroom (possibly separate toilet)
Style, roof type, building type - modern, gable roof *cough*, cube
Basement, floors: with basement, 2 full stories
Number of occupants, age: 2 (aged 33 and 35)
Space requirement ground floor and upper floor - ground floor 80 sqm (860 sq ft) / upper floor 80 sqm (860 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? Home office (frequent)
Overnight guests per year: few
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction style: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes, masonry
Music/sound wall: not necessary
Balcony, roof terrace: not necessary
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: not necessary
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why something should or should not be included
- The house was planned based on experiences from friends who have built (we are basically the last in the group to build)
House design
Who designed the plan: architect
What do you like most and why?
- Kitchen - dining room - living room aligned towards the south
- Ground level access to house and terrace
- From our point of view meets (most of) the requirements
- Gable roof interpreted as almost flat roof creatively in accordance with the development plan (if it gets approved, feedback on this is also welcome)
What do you dislike and why?
- Sense of space, initially the house was planned as split-level but we were just afraid about aging difficulties; however, from our perspective, split-level offers a nicer spatial experience. Also, less earth would need to be moved, and the house would fit better to the terrain.
- Windows still need detailed planning
- The garage door is visible from outside
- Initially, an overhang of the upper floor above the terrace was planned, which might be more sensible
- Staircase should be smaller
- The plan is still very rough, this is only version 3
Price estimate by architect/planner: n/a
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: 770,000 (without plot)
Preferred heating system: heat pump (possibly brine/water system)
If you had to give up something, which features / expansions
- Could you do without: basically nothing, we want to implement all our requirements (you only build once). If really necessary, maybe the basement and thus the office on the ground floor
- Cannot do without: direct access from garage, ground-level access
Why is the design the way it is now? Talks with friends who have built (e.g., direct garage access)
Standard design from planner? No, individually planned by the architect
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Ground-level access, room layout, modern house appearance
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Good
- Modern and creative form (the neighborhood mainly consists of steep gable roofs, few hip roofs, and only one staggered shed roof)
Bad
- Previous design was split-level which would have created a more attractive house with better spatial feeling, but everyone advised against split-level and we are very skeptical as well and have ruled it out
What is the most important basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
What is your general feedback on the design? What is good/bad? What can be improved?
How do you see the chances of approval regarding the "distorted gable roof"/"capped split level"?
Best regards
Building plot:
Ground floor:
Upper floor:
Exterior view:
Upper floor variant 2:
I have been following this forum for several years because I am very interested in the topic of building (especially smart homes). Now that we have decided to actually build, I registered and would like to participate more actively in the discussions.
First of all, I would really appreciate feedback on our first draft for a single-family house.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft)
Slope: yes, approximately 1.5-2 m (5-6.5 ft) sloping to the south
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Gross floor area ratio (GFAR): 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary: Blue line, site plan
Edge development: garage allowed
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: Gable roof
Architectural style: Modern
Orientation: South
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft), max. building length 18 m (59 ft)
Other requirements:
According to the development plan, only gable roofs, staggered shed roofs, and hip roofs are permitted. However, we are trying to interpret the development plan creatively.
Excerpt from the development plan
12.1 Roof shape and pitch, covering and green roofs
Compared to the original plan, previous restrictions regarding green roofs will be relaxed. Freestanding garages are also allowed to have flat roofs, even if these are not greened.
For ecological reasons, solar panels on or integrated into the roof covering are generally permitted and explicitly encouraged. Therefore, when an integrated solar or photovoltaic solution is installed, roof coverings in darker colors are exceptionally allowed.
Homeowners’ requirements:
Pantry, basement, built-in masonry fireplace, built-in walk-in showers on ground and upper floors, laundry chute, direct access from the garage, no balcony but a terrace, double garage, kitchen island
Rooms on ground floor - office, living room, kitchen, dining room
Rooms on upper floor - 2 children’s rooms, bedroom, walk-in closet, bathroom (possibly separate toilet)
Style, roof type, building type - modern, gable roof *cough*, cube
Basement, floors: with basement, 2 full stories
Number of occupants, age: 2 (aged 33 and 35)
Space requirement ground floor and upper floor - ground floor 80 sqm (860 sq ft) / upper floor 80 sqm (860 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? Home office (frequent)
Overnight guests per year: few
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction style: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes, masonry
Music/sound wall: not necessary
Balcony, roof terrace: not necessary
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: not necessary
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why something should or should not be included
- The house was planned based on experiences from friends who have built (we are basically the last in the group to build)
House design
Who designed the plan: architect
What do you like most and why?
- Kitchen - dining room - living room aligned towards the south
- Ground level access to house and terrace
- From our point of view meets (most of) the requirements
- Gable roof interpreted as almost flat roof creatively in accordance with the development plan (if it gets approved, feedback on this is also welcome)
What do you dislike and why?
- Sense of space, initially the house was planned as split-level but we were just afraid about aging difficulties; however, from our perspective, split-level offers a nicer spatial experience. Also, less earth would need to be moved, and the house would fit better to the terrain.
- Windows still need detailed planning
- The garage door is visible from outside
- Initially, an overhang of the upper floor above the terrace was planned, which might be more sensible
- Staircase should be smaller
- The plan is still very rough, this is only version 3
Price estimate by architect/planner: n/a
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: 770,000 (without plot)
Preferred heating system: heat pump (possibly brine/water system)
If you had to give up something, which features / expansions
- Could you do without: basically nothing, we want to implement all our requirements (you only build once). If really necessary, maybe the basement and thus the office on the ground floor
- Cannot do without: direct access from garage, ground-level access
Why is the design the way it is now? Talks with friends who have built (e.g., direct garage access)
Standard design from planner? No, individually planned by the architect
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Ground-level access, room layout, modern house appearance
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Good
- Modern and creative form (the neighborhood mainly consists of steep gable roofs, few hip roofs, and only one staggered shed roof)
Bad
- Previous design was split-level which would have created a more attractive house with better spatial feeling, but everyone advised against split-level and we are very skeptical as well and have ruled it out
What is the most important basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
What is your general feedback on the design? What is good/bad? What can be improved?
How do you see the chances of approval regarding the "distorted gable roof"/"capped split level"?
Best regards
Building plot:
Ground floor:
Upper floor:
Exterior view:
Upper floor variant 2:
Climbee schrieb:
If this door has to remain in the garage, then the second door to the pantry makes no sense at all... I also want direct access from the kitchen to the pantry.
We plan to swap the pantry and the cloakroom to allow for a small window in the pantry.
Overall, we find the areas too small. For example, a kitchen island with a cooktop and downdraft extractor will be very, very cramped.
face26 schrieb:
but if the "little cap" goes all the way through (which would be a shed roof in that case), then I don’t understand why all of Germany complains about picky building authorities Not all of Germany complains about picky Austrian building authorities
ypg schrieb:
Planners and builders get tunnel vision when it comes to squeezing a deal out of the development plan for aesthetic reasons, but don’t see how they ruin the house. In an era where “fifteen minutes of fame” can be a “goal,” that’s hardly surprising. No matter what pain they cause themselves: the main thing is to bang, bang, show the building authority who’s boss. After Bauhaus style comes Bushido style—building as a full-on fierce battle with the building authority, you know, dude?
Haha, now I know what that thing on the roof is for: it’s the exhaust silencer flap. L-blocks were in 2018, now we have blue neon tubes under the foundation slab *ROTFL*
Climbee schrieb:
The two doors into the pantry basically make it useless, On the contrary, that’s exactly how it’s supposed to be: separate doors for starter and dessert.
schwimbi schrieb:
What would be your suggestion for the roof to achieve the best cube/flat roof character?
Offset shed roof sloping south with a small lip on the north?
Hip roof with a high parapet and no overhang? As my previous comments gently hinted, I don’t understand the teenage pogo dance. Therefore, I see a fundamental contradiction between “best roof suggestion” and “cube character” for this plot. Follow the terrain— a gable roof doesn’t have to be symmetrical on both eaves, just a little tip.
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I don’t think anyone expected that the pantry with two doors is actually a cloakroom + passageway + pantry.
It’s always the same: a lot of space is planned for the living areas, while the utility rooms get just the bare minimum square meters, like the guest shower room, pantry, cloakroom, bathroom, and dressing room.
By the way, I see the cloakroom opposite the stairs. Apparently, I’m not the only one.
Honestly: everything is new. Feel free to delete.
And reconsider the plot because of the zoning plan (building permit / planning permission).
It’s always the same: a lot of space is planned for the living areas, while the utility rooms get just the bare minimum square meters, like the guest shower room, pantry, cloakroom, bathroom, and dressing room.
By the way, I see the cloakroom opposite the stairs. Apparently, I’m not the only one.
Honestly: everything is new. Feel free to delete.
And reconsider the plot because of the zoning plan (building permit / planning permission).
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