Hello everyone,
Our house construction is now slowly but surely progressing – as some of you may have already read. We originally sketched a floor plan according to our ideas and then optimized it with our architect.
The most important thing is that we currently really like it, but I would still appreciate comments from "outsiders." Sorry for the poor quality of the photos; I don’t yet have the digital file, so these are photos of a printout. Please keep in mind that the shown floor plan is just a preliminary draft. The window positions are not yet 100% accurate, the drawn-in furniture is still flexible, as are the sanitary fittings.
But first, here is all the necessary information:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 778 sqm (8,370 sq ft)
Slope: flat plot
Floor area ratio: 0.25
Floor space index: open
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: 3 m (10 ft) distance to neighboring plots, 5 m (16 ft) to public spaces
Edge development: see attached cadastral map (the path at the southern end of the property is only a pedestrian path, not a road)
Number of parking spaces: two planned
Number of storeys: single storey
Roof shape: gable roof or hipped roof
Style: open in development plan
Orientation: entrance northeast, terrace southwest
Maximum height / limitations
Additional requirements
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Frisian house with gable roof
Basement, storeys: no basement, ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, age: currently two people, with future flexibility for up to four
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: currently 162 sqm (1,743 sq ft) of living space according to DIN on ground and upper floors
Office: family use
Guest bedrooms per year: two adults (+ one child) simultaneously for five to seven weekends per year
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design
Open kitchen, kitchen island: see floor plan, open kitchen with island but with the option to separate using a glass wall
Number of dining seats: three seats in the kitchen, sufficient seating in the dining area
Fireplace: yes
Music / stereo wall: yes, on the wall to the utility room (where the sofa currently stands, this will be changed)
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport planned
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: vegetable garden definitely planned, greenhouse rather unlikely
Other wishes / special features / daily routine
House design
Planner: architect with preliminary work by us
What do we particularly like? Open kitchen, large living and dining area (45 sqm (484 sq ft)), fireplace, large bathroom on the upper floor, subtle spatial separation of parents’ and children’s areas. Children’s rooms extend up to the roof, allowing for a mezzanine level. Interior staircase for short distances (there will be frosted glass doors leading to the office, letting some light into the stairwell)
What don’t we like? How do you find the elongated bathroom? What do you think of the bedroom with the adjacent dressing area and the sleeping area behind it?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: €250,000 excluding additional construction costs and own work like painting, tiling, interior doors, etc.
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: maximum budget is €350,000, but it doesn’t have to be fully used. Furniture is completely available except for the kitchen.
Preferred heating technology: gas condensing boiler.
Thanks,
Mirco
Our house construction is now slowly but surely progressing – as some of you may have already read. We originally sketched a floor plan according to our ideas and then optimized it with our architect.
The most important thing is that we currently really like it, but I would still appreciate comments from "outsiders." Sorry for the poor quality of the photos; I don’t yet have the digital file, so these are photos of a printout. Please keep in mind that the shown floor plan is just a preliminary draft. The window positions are not yet 100% accurate, the drawn-in furniture is still flexible, as are the sanitary fittings.
But first, here is all the necessary information:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 778 sqm (8,370 sq ft)
Slope: flat plot
Floor area ratio: 0.25
Floor space index: open
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: 3 m (10 ft) distance to neighboring plots, 5 m (16 ft) to public spaces
Edge development: see attached cadastral map (the path at the southern end of the property is only a pedestrian path, not a road)
Number of parking spaces: two planned
Number of storeys: single storey
Roof shape: gable roof or hipped roof
Style: open in development plan
Orientation: entrance northeast, terrace southwest
Maximum height / limitations
Additional requirements
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Frisian house with gable roof
Basement, storeys: no basement, ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, age: currently two people, with future flexibility for up to four
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: currently 162 sqm (1,743 sq ft) of living space according to DIN on ground and upper floors
Office: family use
Guest bedrooms per year: two adults (+ one child) simultaneously for five to seven weekends per year
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design
Open kitchen, kitchen island: see floor plan, open kitchen with island but with the option to separate using a glass wall
Number of dining seats: three seats in the kitchen, sufficient seating in the dining area
Fireplace: yes
Music / stereo wall: yes, on the wall to the utility room (where the sofa currently stands, this will be changed)
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport planned
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: vegetable garden definitely planned, greenhouse rather unlikely
Other wishes / special features / daily routine
House design
Planner: architect with preliminary work by us
What do we particularly like? Open kitchen, large living and dining area (45 sqm (484 sq ft)), fireplace, large bathroom on the upper floor, subtle spatial separation of parents’ and children’s areas. Children’s rooms extend up to the roof, allowing for a mezzanine level. Interior staircase for short distances (there will be frosted glass doors leading to the office, letting some light into the stairwell)
What don’t we like? How do you find the elongated bathroom? What do you think of the bedroom with the adjacent dressing area and the sleeping area behind it?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: €250,000 excluding additional construction costs and own work like painting, tiling, interior doors, etc.
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: maximum budget is €350,000, but it doesn’t have to be fully used. Furniture is completely available except for the kitchen.
Preferred heating technology: gas condensing boiler.
Thanks,
Mirco
Well, if you position the dining table in a way that allows easy access to the terrace door on the left, the table will end up quite close to the fireplace.
Why wouldn’t swapping the living and kitchen areas be an option?
Especially for the purpose you mentioned—using the space @BeHaElJa referred to as “dead living space,” for a playpen, etc.—it would be much better to have the kitchen overlook that area.
Rotating the staircase doesn’t really solve the problem that a staircase of this size basically ends right against the wall upstairs. It can’t be more than a meter (3 feet) away.
And a bathroom with frosted glass doors? Are you serious? Right in the exit area of the shower? Well-lit bathroom or not, that doesn’t seem practical.
Regarding the washbasin/roof slope and the 2 m (6 ft 7 in) line, the issue isn’t so much about someone going to the bathtub while another is at the washbasin, but rather the confined and oppressive feeling you get standing at the washbasin (I would feel it at 180 cm (5 ft 11 in) tall). Take one step back and you risk hitting your head.
What about cloakroom space on the ground floor? With the staircase mirrored now, the only designated spot for a wardrobe cabinet is eliminated.
Why wouldn’t swapping the living and kitchen areas be an option?
Especially for the purpose you mentioned—using the space @BeHaElJa referred to as “dead living space,” for a playpen, etc.—it would be much better to have the kitchen overlook that area.
Rotating the staircase doesn’t really solve the problem that a staircase of this size basically ends right against the wall upstairs. It can’t be more than a meter (3 feet) away.
And a bathroom with frosted glass doors? Are you serious? Right in the exit area of the shower? Well-lit bathroom or not, that doesn’t seem practical.
Regarding the washbasin/roof slope and the 2 m (6 ft 7 in) line, the issue isn’t so much about someone going to the bathtub while another is at the washbasin, but rather the confined and oppressive feeling you get standing at the washbasin (I would feel it at 180 cm (5 ft 11 in) tall). Take one step back and you risk hitting your head.
What about cloakroom space on the ground floor? With the staircase mirrored now, the only designated spot for a wardrobe cabinet is eliminated.
BeHaElJa schrieb:
Drainage cannot be finalized if you don’t know where everything will be placed… The drainage has been finalized for the current condition.
BeHaElJa schrieb:
Even if you mirror the staircase, it won’t work… the exit is too short. Ah, now I understand. Off the top of my head, instead of splitting the staircase into 8 steps before and 8 steps after the landing, it might help to raise the landing higher, which would gain space on the upper floor.
BeHaElJa schrieb:
If it’s an 80 cm (31 inch) shower, it might fit on the ground floor. That was the plan; only a "small" shower should be installed in the guest toilet.
kbt09 schrieb:
Why wouldn’t swapping living and kitchen spaces be an option? That has other drawbacks. Groceries would have to be carried through the entire house after shopping, and after meals you always have to pass through the kitchen to get from the dining to the living area. We preferred to have the dining area facing south rather than the kitchen… so we decided on the kitchen towards the front.
kbt09 schrieb:
Turning the staircase… doesn’t really solve the problem that a staircase of this size ends almost directly at the wall upstairs. That can’t be more than a meter, right? See above, the issue is acknowledged.
kbt09 schrieb:
…standing at the washbasin quickly causes a cramped feeling (I would feel that at 180 cm (5 ft 11 in) height). Taking a step back you’d bump your head. The 2 m (6 ft 7 in) line is approximately 1 m (3 ft 3 in) away from the wall. I will revisit this matter, as I’m not yet fully satisfied with the bathroom layout.
Regarding your drawing: Correct, that’s how the house should be positioned. The plot measures 21 m x 37 m (69 ft x 121 ft). Accordingly, the carport will not be built as originally planned, but the general location should follow that layout.
I only suggested swapping the living and cooking areas. The dining area should remain where you originally planned it. I don’t understand why, after swapping, you would have to go through the kitchen to get from the dining area to the living area. The distance from the entrance to the kitchen would be slightly longer, but the routes between the kitchen and terrace, etc., especially in summer, are used much more frequently than the path from the entrance to the kitchen.
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