ᐅ Single-family home, approximately 1500 square feet, with 2 children’s bedrooms – What do you think of the floor plan?
Created on: 4 Aug 2018 14:18
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Stege90
Hello,
we have been offered a plot of land by a developer and would like to build our future home there. The plot is located at the end of a cul-de-sac in a traffic-calmed residential area (infilling development).
I should mention upfront that we have not yet received much information from the developer. We shared our rough requirements with him, and he has created a first draft, so far only for the ground floor.
It would be great if you could help us evaluate this early on before we progress too far in the planning and have to make major changes later.
The positioning of the house on the plot is due to the fact that all other options we considered would cast too much shadow on the rest of the plot.
The plot shown as undeveloped on the site plan has meanwhile been built on with a bungalow (marked). A carport will be constructed between the bungalow and our plot.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 750 m² (about 8,070 sq ft)
Slope: none
Floor area ratio: no information received yet
Plot ratio: no information received yet
Building window, building line, and boundary: no information received yet
Edge development: no information received yet
Number of parking spaces: no information received yet
Number of floors: no information received yet
Roof shape:
Architectural style:
Orientation: see image
Maximum heights / limits: ?
Additional requirements?
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: A mono-pitched roof was preferred to minimize sloping ceilings, but according to the developer and the development plan this is not permitted, so a gable roof was proposed – this still needs clarification.
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: currently 3 (28, 28, 1), planned: second child
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Ground floor: guest toilet, utility room, kitchen/dining room, living room; Upper floor: 3 bedrooms, office, bathroom
Office use: family or home office? office to be used occasionally as a mobile workspace; initially also as a guest room
Guests per year – every 3 months 2-4 people
Open or closed layout – rather closed
Conservative or modern construction: probably a mix
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen connected to dining room – no freestanding kitchen island; separation from dining area by a counter
Number of dining seats: minimum 6, option for a large dining table (big family)
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: yes, in the living room where the sofa is currently planned (wall on the left towards the carport); sofa arranged in an L-shape facing north and east – pictures might be hung on the wall towards the dining room
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage was requested, but we also like the current proposal
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be included:
Bathroom – T-shaped bathroom with shower cabin desired; a large washbasin
Walk-in closet not desired
No basement
Access via the garage/carport
House Design
Designed by:
- planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like and why? What do you dislike and why?
We definitely want the carport to be wider than in the initial floor plan – at least 4 meters (about 13 feet).
Noticeable is the missing entrance area, i.e. the actual front door. Initially, this seemed strange to us, but it provides many opportunities for the interior layout, so after some consideration we don’t find it so bad.
Price estimate according to architect/planner; personal price limit for the house, including fittings: approx. €260,000
Preferred heating technology: not discussed yet
If you have to give up something, which features/extensions
- can you do without: garage – already left out by the developer to enable the design without a main entrance area
- cannot do without: kitchen/dining area – pantry next to the kitchen
Why is the design like it is? For example:
We do not want a completely open living/dining area. Therefore, the living room should be a separate, closed room.
[U]What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
What do you think about the missing traditional entrance area?
Please feel free to criticize and offer suggestions for improvement. For now, the focus is on the house location on the plot and the ground floor layout. Since we are still at the beginning, many things are still changeable.
we have been offered a plot of land by a developer and would like to build our future home there. The plot is located at the end of a cul-de-sac in a traffic-calmed residential area (infilling development).
I should mention upfront that we have not yet received much information from the developer. We shared our rough requirements with him, and he has created a first draft, so far only for the ground floor.
It would be great if you could help us evaluate this early on before we progress too far in the planning and have to make major changes later.
The positioning of the house on the plot is due to the fact that all other options we considered would cast too much shadow on the rest of the plot.
The plot shown as undeveloped on the site plan has meanwhile been built on with a bungalow (marked). A carport will be constructed between the bungalow and our plot.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 750 m² (about 8,070 sq ft)
Slope: none
Floor area ratio: no information received yet
Plot ratio: no information received yet
Building window, building line, and boundary: no information received yet
Edge development: no information received yet
Number of parking spaces: no information received yet
Number of floors: no information received yet
Roof shape:
Architectural style:
Orientation: see image
Maximum heights / limits: ?
Additional requirements?
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: A mono-pitched roof was preferred to minimize sloping ceilings, but according to the developer and the development plan this is not permitted, so a gable roof was proposed – this still needs clarification.
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: currently 3 (28, 28, 1), planned: second child
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Ground floor: guest toilet, utility room, kitchen/dining room, living room; Upper floor: 3 bedrooms, office, bathroom
Office use: family or home office? office to be used occasionally as a mobile workspace; initially also as a guest room
Guests per year – every 3 months 2-4 people
Open or closed layout – rather closed
Conservative or modern construction: probably a mix
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen connected to dining room – no freestanding kitchen island; separation from dining area by a counter
Number of dining seats: minimum 6, option for a large dining table (big family)
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: yes, in the living room where the sofa is currently planned (wall on the left towards the carport); sofa arranged in an L-shape facing north and east – pictures might be hung on the wall towards the dining room
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage was requested, but we also like the current proposal
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be included:
Bathroom – T-shaped bathroom with shower cabin desired; a large washbasin
Walk-in closet not desired
No basement
Access via the garage/carport
House Design
Designed by:
- planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like and why? What do you dislike and why?
We definitely want the carport to be wider than in the initial floor plan – at least 4 meters (about 13 feet).
Noticeable is the missing entrance area, i.e. the actual front door. Initially, this seemed strange to us, but it provides many opportunities for the interior layout, so after some consideration we don’t find it so bad.
Price estimate according to architect/planner; personal price limit for the house, including fittings: approx. €260,000
Preferred heating technology: not discussed yet
If you have to give up something, which features/extensions
- can you do without: garage – already left out by the developer to enable the design without a main entrance area
- cannot do without: kitchen/dining area – pantry next to the kitchen
Why is the design like it is? For example:
We do not want a completely open living/dining area. Therefore, the living room should be a separate, closed room.
[U]What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
What do you think about the missing traditional entrance area?
Please feel free to criticize and offer suggestions for improvement. For now, the focus is on the house location on the plot and the ground floor layout. Since we are still at the beginning, many things are still changeable.
kbt09 schrieb:
The T-shaped bathroom doesn’t work properly like this:
Room width:
338 cm (133 inches) - 90 cm (35 inches) shower - 18 cm (7 inches) wall - 85 cm (33 inches) bathtub - 10 cm (4 inches) plaster and tiles on the many walls - 55 cm (22 inches) for a realistically deep washbasin.
That leaves 80 cm (31 inches) of passage... okay, it might be enough, but it’s less generous than the drawing suggests.
However, the T-shower is pointless if the shower door opens as shown. If the door is in the passageway, then it overlaps the window, and the window would have to be significantly narrower. Then it could be at most about 126 cm (50 inches).
@Stege90 ... It would be great if the house could be redrawn to scale in the site plan.Yes, the shower wall will definitely open inward, see example:The 80 cm (31 inches) is a good indication and is sufficient for us so far.
We will request the site plan again and then I will update it.
ypg schrieb:
Let’s just take this: the pantry is not really usable as such because of the south-facing window. After three days of sun, the heat won’t get out of this narrow room, and it becomes uncomfortable there for anyone staying inside. Food will spoil quickly.We will have external blinds to mitigate this problem somewhat, but not completely, that’s true. So far, we have kept it in because of the blinds and the external appearance. What about ventilation if the pantry window is removed? Will the ventilation system be installed in every room, including the pantry?Also, the symmetrical window arrangement on that side would be lost.
ypg schrieb:
The design is getting worse.
The pantry still has its south window. Everything revolves around the impossible entrance under the carport... as if you wanted to deliberately create a bottleneck with a maze here.
Could it be that you cannot follow our well-meant and sensible advice?We are trying to understand the advice and are definitely taking conclusions from it.I have already commented on the hallway issue in post no. 37.
Obstlerbaum schrieb:
Maybe shift the house 2.5 m (8 feet) east within the building boundary and you’ll get space in front of the entrance door to move it to the north.
Having the pantry next to the kitchen makes sense, but just swap the living room and kitchen. Then you solve three issues at once:
- Living room with southern exposure
- Dining room with southern exposure
- Pantry directly next to the kitchen and cool on the north sideThat suggestion could really work, but first we need the updated site plan. It could get quite tight—or even impossible. But we will take care of it!
Stege90 schrieb:
And the symmetry of the windows on that side would be lost. Secondly, there is no symmetry there, and firstly, it is not necessary. You don't go into the pantry to get fresh air – it requires a as constant climate as possible, which means no heating from a window. A blind there would just be a joke.
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11ant schrieb:
You don't go to the pantry to get fresh air – it needs the most stable climate possible, which means no heating up caused by a window. That tops off the absurdity of the design when I use the sunny side of the house for windowless storage rooms to prevent them from heating up.
kaho674 schrieb:
This tops the absurdity of the planning when I install windowless storage rooms on the sunny side of the house to prevent them from overheating.No one ever suggested placing the pantry on the south side.
This absurdity arises when the pantry absolutely must be accessible from the south-facing kitchen... plus the two towers as tall cabinets in the kitchen to allow the kitchen door to swing more easily.
Instead of considering removing the pantry altogether and planning the kitchen door directly from the entrance.
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