ᐅ Single-family house, 165 sqm, without basement – Opinions on the floor plan
Created on: 4 Mar 2020 14:56
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Phinitho
Hello everyone,
After reading quietly for some time, things are now getting serious for us. We recently purchased a plot of land and are ready to start building our own home.
We had been interested in this plot for a while and have already spent some time trying to find a floor plan that “fits.” We picked up a few ideas here in the forum. Now that we have secured the land, we need to focus seriously on the floor plan.
Since I have been reading here for a while and am often amazed by the great and helpful ideas from other forum members, I thought it might be useful to share our floor plan draft here for discussion. So please feel free to share your comments – many thanks in advance!
A few explanations about the sketches:
- The development plan is oriented to true north; on the floor plans, the top of the plan is approximately northwest.
- Since we already know which builder we will use, the wall thicknesses correspond to their specifications.
- The window locations are still completely open, so they are barely drawn in on the upper floor.
- Our existing furniture in the living and dining rooms is accurately scaled and included.
- The furniture in the kitchen and bathroom are just placeholders so far – the “cabinet” in the bathroom is ideally meant to house the washing machine and dryer later.
- The terrace, driveway, etc., are currently placeholders as well. In particular, we have not yet checked if everything complies with the site coverage ratio.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 472 sqm (16x29.5 m) (170 x 97 feet)
Slope none
Site coverage ratio 0.4
Floor area ratio 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary building envelope 10x20 m (33 x 66 feet)
Edge development no
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of storeys max. 2 full storeys
Roof type
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum height / limits 9.80 m (32 feet)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type single-family house with gable roof without eaves
Basement, storeys 2 full storeys, no basement
Number of residents, age 2 adults (mid-30s), currently 1 child (1.5 years) + second child expected
Room requirements ground floor / upper floor Ground floor: kitchen/dining/living, utility/technical room, office/guest room, WC; Upper floor: master bedroom/dressing/bathroom, 2 children’s bedrooms, children’s bathroom
Office: family use or home office? occasional home office + guest sleeping option
Number of overnight guests per year 10–15
Open or closed layout preferably open
Conservative or modern building style
Open kitchen, kitchen island yes and yes (if space allows)
Number of dining seats 6–10
Fireplace yes
Music / stereo wall no
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport carport
Utility garden, greenhouse no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House Design
Planning by: DIY based on various floor plans found online (including a sketch kaho674 posted in another thread here)
What do you particularly like? Why? Area between hallway and kitchen
What do you dislike? Why? Entrance area/hallway; living area possibly too small?
Price estimate from architect/planner: none yet
Personal price limit for house, including equipment: 400,000 (house without exterior works and additional construction costs)
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/expansions
- can you do without:
- cannot do without: children’s bathroom on upper floor, large master bathroom with space for sauna
Why did the design turn out as it is now? We wanted 2 children’s bedrooms and 2 bathrooms on the upper floor; the rest of the rooms then arranged themselves naturally
After reading quietly for some time, things are now getting serious for us. We recently purchased a plot of land and are ready to start building our own home.
We had been interested in this plot for a while and have already spent some time trying to find a floor plan that “fits.” We picked up a few ideas here in the forum. Now that we have secured the land, we need to focus seriously on the floor plan.
Since I have been reading here for a while and am often amazed by the great and helpful ideas from other forum members, I thought it might be useful to share our floor plan draft here for discussion. So please feel free to share your comments – many thanks in advance!
A few explanations about the sketches:
- The development plan is oriented to true north; on the floor plans, the top of the plan is approximately northwest.
- Since we already know which builder we will use, the wall thicknesses correspond to their specifications.
- The window locations are still completely open, so they are barely drawn in on the upper floor.
- Our existing furniture in the living and dining rooms is accurately scaled and included.
- The furniture in the kitchen and bathroom are just placeholders so far – the “cabinet” in the bathroom is ideally meant to house the washing machine and dryer later.
- The terrace, driveway, etc., are currently placeholders as well. In particular, we have not yet checked if everything complies with the site coverage ratio.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 472 sqm (16x29.5 m) (170 x 97 feet)
Slope none
Site coverage ratio 0.4
Floor area ratio 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary building envelope 10x20 m (33 x 66 feet)
Edge development no
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of storeys max. 2 full storeys
Roof type
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum height / limits 9.80 m (32 feet)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type single-family house with gable roof without eaves
Basement, storeys 2 full storeys, no basement
Number of residents, age 2 adults (mid-30s), currently 1 child (1.5 years) + second child expected
Room requirements ground floor / upper floor Ground floor: kitchen/dining/living, utility/technical room, office/guest room, WC; Upper floor: master bedroom/dressing/bathroom, 2 children’s bedrooms, children’s bathroom
Office: family use or home office? occasional home office + guest sleeping option
Number of overnight guests per year 10–15
Open or closed layout preferably open
Conservative or modern building style
Open kitchen, kitchen island yes and yes (if space allows)
Number of dining seats 6–10
Fireplace yes
Music / stereo wall no
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport carport
Utility garden, greenhouse no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House Design
Planning by: DIY based on various floor plans found online (including a sketch kaho674 posted in another thread here)
What do you particularly like? Why? Area between hallway and kitchen
What do you dislike? Why? Entrance area/hallway; living area possibly too small?
Price estimate from architect/planner: none yet
Personal price limit for house, including equipment: 400,000 (house without exterior works and additional construction costs)
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/expansions
- can you do without:
- cannot do without: children’s bathroom on upper floor, large master bathroom with space for sauna
Why did the design turn out as it is now? We wanted 2 children’s bedrooms and 2 bathrooms on the upper floor; the rest of the rooms then arranged themselves naturally
Thanks for your comments and questions, I will address them one by one...
11ant schrieb:Is it really that expensive? Well, you probably have to insulate it from above since there’s no upper floor, but that’s only about 4.5sqm (48 sq ft) of exterior area... Distributing the space probably won’t help me much, since I want to make the entrance area a bit larger to place a shoe cabinet or something in front of the stairs (top of the plan).
In your drawings, there is no roof, and it's extremely expensive—better to go with a flat one. The square meter price “distributed” is only a fraction.
face26 schrieb:That’s also my concern, that the living room might be a bit small. The armchair will mainly be used for reading, but maybe it can be swapped with the fireplace?
- The living room might be cozy—are you sure this will be your furniture arrangement? Does the person in the armchair not like to watch TV?
face26 schrieb:Good point.
If in doubt, make the terrace wrap around longer and add a balcony door to the kitchen.
face26 schrieb:Yes, there will be one. In addition, a small storage room is planned under the stairs.
- I’m missing storage space—is there an attic?
face26 schrieb:We currently have, and probably will for the next few years, a family bed roughly 2.75 by 2.20 meters (9 ft by 7 ft). Since our little daughter sleeps on one side, the bed will be placed against the wall on that side anyway. When we are back to just two in a few years, the width should be enough for a 2-meter (6 ft 7 in) bed, right?
- The bed position is not serious, right?
face26 schrieb:I’m also not entirely happy with the bathroom layout but haven’t come up with a better idea yet. I don’t see too many options to rearrange the upper floor since I want the two children’s rooms on the south side (left on the plan) and the “parents’ zone” on the north side (right on the plan)... but maybe I’m just a bit too close to it? ops:
- I don’t like the bathroom if you ignore the entrance and sauna—the bathroom shrinks by half. And if you value having a sauna so much, I wouldn’t want to put the washing machine in there. That’s more of a last resort, which makes sense in an apartment building, but I wouldn’t plan a single-family house that way. [...] I would still redesign the upper floor and maybe try to include a utility room.
face26 schrieb:No, the kids don’t need it! Actually, yes, of course, it will have a toilet—I just haven’t had time to furnish the upper floor virtually yet...
- Does the kids’ bathroom get a toilet?
11ant schrieb:Oh, I haven’t updated the dimensions yet—the sauna will be bigger than shown. At the moment we’re considering a rounded one with 1.80 by 1.80 meters (6 ft by 6 ft) exterior dimensions, and that will be enough (we don’t want to invite the whole neighborhood).
... and the sauna is more like a wide broom closet (?)
Phinitho schrieb:
I just haven't had the time yet to virtually set up the upper floor...
[...] Oh, I haven't adjusted the dimensions yet Then take your time. But better not just now before you present it to us, rather before you derive a ground floor from the upper floor. So start over again (or back to the upper floor starting point).
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knalltüte4 Mar 2020 18:24Hello, may I quickly ask which software you used to create this design?
It looks "easy" to use.
zapp
It looks "easy" to use.
zapp
I find the house quite arbitrary.
Firstly, on the plot (room layout, utility room facing south, living room facing north), secondly, the rooms themselves (e.g., the entrance area with an open space between the door and stairs, or the cloakroom behind the stairwell, which becomes a dirt trap despite its distance from the entrance; structurally also quite random with load-bearing walls), and thirdly, an arbitrary interior design, for example bathrooms without a clear layout or everything pushed into one corner, living room sofa under the window, armchair with its back open, making it very uncomfortable...
Okay, the orientation is corrected on second thought (I removed that above).
For the rest, I think there are better standard house designs that can be adapted (-> chill, TV and reading corners, piano space, wellness bathroom, entrance hallway, guest toilet).
Okay, the orientation is corrected on second thought (I removed that above).
For the rest, I think there are better standard house designs that can be adapted (-> chill, TV and reading corners, piano space, wellness bathroom, entrance hallway, guest toilet).
11ant schrieb:
Yes, then take your time. But better not only now before you present it to us, rather already before you derive a ground floor from the upper floor. So, start again (or rather from the upper floor start). Understood, I’ll go back to the drawing board...
hanse987 schrieb:
Also add the chimney to your fireplace drawing, and on both levels. Good point, I actually forgot that so far. Are there standard dimensions for how big a chimney usually is? Otherwise, I’d plan with 40x40cm (16x16 inches) until I know more precisely...
ypg schrieb:
I find the house quite arbitrary. [...] I’m also not 100% convinced about the room layout yet, but honestly, when looking at many house providers’ websites, I haven’t found a suitable design that solves all the relevant issues for us (especially the piano doesn’t fit anywhere in the floor plans where the kitchen/dining/living is arranged in an L-shape).
I’m not completely happy with the entrance area myself, but since we (i) want the kitchen/dining/living not “in a row” but arranged in an L-shape and (ii) need to accommodate a utility room and a study/guest room on the ground floor, only the “leftovers” remained for the entrance area, oops:.
And the bathrooms... yes, I agree there is room for improvement there as I’ve said before...
superzapp schrieb:
Hi, may I quickly ask which software you used to draw this?
Looks “easy” to use
zapp You’re not allowed to post links here, but if you search on a major search engine for where to draw house floor plans online, you’ll find options quickly. You do have to register but can then plan up to three “houses” for free...
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