ᐅ Single-family house, 160 m² with basement, on a 500 m² plot of land

Created on: 9 Jun 2020 18:34
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Murmelstein
Hi,

We have a 500m2 (5400 sq ft) plot where we would like to build.

We have now received the initial plans from our preferred construction company.

We need a basement because my wife and I both work from home, and we have three children who should each have their own room.

The attic is not really a good option due to the small dormer window and a building height limit of 9 meters (30 ft). The basement is quite expensive because of the clay soil, but in the end, we decided in favor of the basement, and the first financing simulations fit approximately a $680,000 build cost including additional construction expenses. The land is not included, of course.

I think the plans are already quite good, but I don’t have much expertise. A master bathroom was our request. The guest bathroom on the ground floor is there because we often have guests staying with us.

In my opinion, the pantry can be left out.

I planned the upstairs hallway once larger and once smaller to allow for a bigger children’s bathroom.

I miss the external staircase to the basement. If the stairs were on the right side, it would allow for "normal" windows in the basement offices. I have pointed this out. Also, the street runs roughly along the house from left to right and drops about one meter (3 ft).

I’m not sure about the layout of the "fitness" room; I think it might be structurally necessary. I want to bother the architect only once we are 100% sure we are going with this construction company.

What I generally don't like right now is that generic feel when looking at it, but the house is simply a standard two-story with a 30° pitched roof.

I would really like to know from your experience whether this covered terrace is a good idea or not.

Thanks in advance

Grundriss eines Hauses: Zimmer (Fitness, Spiel, Büro), Flur, Küche, Parkplatz rechts.


Grundriss Obergeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, drei Kinderzimmer, Bad und Flur.


Grundriss des Obergeschosses: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, drei Kinderzimmer, Flur, Bad.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Garage, Terrasse, Wohn- und Essbereich, Küche und Diele.
Ibdk147 Jul 2020 10:21
Personally, I don’t like guest toilets without natural light. I would probably just make it smaller and keep it in its original location. You still gain the space for the cloakroom, and in my opinion, it’s even better to have it further back/upstairs because when entering, you take a couple of steps inside first instead of standing right by the front door in the way of other visitors. You just need to decide whether natural light is more important to you in the cloakroom or the toilet. Either way, it’s definitely doable.

Edit: If you want to leave out the window completely, of course, the situation is different.
Pinky03017 Jul 2020 10:29
That would be a good way to make a window possible if the bathroom is moved towards the bottom of the plan. Light can enter the hallway through the front door plus a side panel.
11ant7 Jul 2020 10:34
I appreciate any omitted garage connection door, but what do you want with a 20 sqm (215 sq ft) foyer in front of the bathroom? Don’t forget that a basement bathroom requires a sewage lifting system. The strategic intention behind your current wave of changes is not clear to me.
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ypg
7 Jul 2020 10:53
Murmelstein schrieb:

Is it completely unreasonable to build a small guest toilet without a shower and without a window?

I think it’s acceptable in a terraced house or something similar. Still, I have to admit it annoys me when I have to turn on the light in the guest toilet due to lack of natural light (for example in the evening or winter). It’s simply nicer and more comfortable to have daylight through a window.

Besides that, having a toilet and sink right by the door is very convenient when working in the garden or yard.

To be honest, I don’t really see your problem here (other than that you seem to overcomplicate things).
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pagoni2020
7 Jul 2020 10:55
A guest toilet without a window is perfectly fine, but of course, a guest toilet WITH a window is just as good. You don’t necessarily need a full mechanical ventilation system for this; a standard bathroom exhaust fan is sufficient. As the words suggest—“guest” + “toilet”—it’s a room that is used rarely and very briefly, similar to a storage room. It’s important that it exists, but for me, that would be enough, especially if this could help you gain even a small advantage elsewhere.

I completely agree with [USER=32750]@11ant; the plan looks unfinished halfway through due to the emptiness of the huge hallway, resembling something like a factory owner’s villa.
I still think the staircase should be located elsewhere. As it is, it divides this already not very wide area in an awkward way.
I believe you should have this ground floor layout completely redone (or have it redone); it would be a shame if you allowed yourself to be pushed into something here.

In my opinion, a shower in the basement near the office/guest area is an absolute must, even if a lifting system (pump) is required; this is not complicated, but it would be a problem if the basement has no shower or toilet. This way, you could also use it almost as a separate unit without guests needing to come into your private living area (otherwise, guests would have to go upstairs from the basement to shower). Your kids would not appreciate it if one of the three small sinks got messy—
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pagoni2020
7 Jul 2020 11:01
ypg schrieb:

I find it acceptable in a terraced or townhouse-type home. However, I have to admit it annoys me when I have to turn on the light in the guest bathroom due to lack of natural light (in the evening or winter). It is definitely nicer and more comfortable to have natural light coming through a window.
Apart from that, having a toilet and sink right by the door is very convenient when working in the garden or yard.
To be honest, I don’t really see your problem (except that you might be overcomplicating things)

Certainly, it is better and more comfortable to have a window in the guest bathroom, also near the main entrance for all possible reasons. But if that would limit another important function, the guest bathroom window would probably be the first thing to be cut.
I don’t think @Murmelstein is overcomplicating things. Building your own house and avoiding mistakes is complicated. I truly believe that an interior designer or architect (even someone advanced in their studies in this field) could resolve this situation in multiple ways.
@Murmelstein rightly wants it to be nice, but I think the planner is not the right fit!