ᐅ Single-family house, 150 sqm with basement and an additional 15 sqm on the upper floor, located in a rural/outdoor area
Created on: 2 Aug 2020 08:59
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First Rough Draft
We want to start planning our new house next year.
We have put a lot of thought into the design to achieve a layout that works well for us.
The main living area will be on the upper floor with 150sqm (1,615 sq ft), while the ground floor will only have guest rooms / office.
The technical equipment will also be located on the upper floor.
Plot size about 9000m² (2.2 acres)
Kitchen/living room/bedroom face south.
What we don’t like yet is the kitchen and the fact that when you enter the living room, you directly face the TV wall, even though everything will be recessed into the wall.
Development Plan / Restrictions
The property is in an outer zone, so everything requires special permission.
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type see example (finish moved forward and with brick facade)
Basement, floors lower ground floor (upper floor partly finished), no basement
Number of people, age 2, 40 years
Space needed on ground floor, upper floor 150sqm (1,615 sq ft), 15sqm (160 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office?
Guests per year 0 – there are hotels
Open or closed architecture closed
Conservative or modern style somewhere in between
Open kitchen, cooking island No
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace possibly gas under the stairs
Music/stereo wall living room
Balcony, roof terrace No
Garage, carport Yes, but not planned yet
Utility garden, greenhouse No
House Design
Who created the plan: still ourselves
-Planner from construction company
-Architect
-Do-it-Yourself as much as possible (we set construction time to three years)
What do you like most? Why?
What don’t you like? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
Why did the design turn out like this?
Because this is how we currently imagine it
As mentioned, this is only a very first draft.
We want to start planning our new house next year.
We have put a lot of thought into the design to achieve a layout that works well for us.
The main living area will be on the upper floor with 150sqm (1,615 sq ft), while the ground floor will only have guest rooms / office.
The technical equipment will also be located on the upper floor.
Plot size about 9000m² (2.2 acres)
Kitchen/living room/bedroom face south.
What we don’t like yet is the kitchen and the fact that when you enter the living room, you directly face the TV wall, even though everything will be recessed into the wall.
Development Plan / Restrictions
The property is in an outer zone, so everything requires special permission.
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type see example (finish moved forward and with brick facade)
Basement, floors lower ground floor (upper floor partly finished), no basement
Number of people, age 2, 40 years
Space needed on ground floor, upper floor 150sqm (1,615 sq ft), 15sqm (160 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office?
Guests per year 0 – there are hotels
Open or closed architecture closed
Conservative or modern style somewhere in between
Open kitchen, cooking island No
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace possibly gas under the stairs
Music/stereo wall living room
Balcony, roof terrace No
Garage, carport Yes, but not planned yet
Utility garden, greenhouse No
House Design
Who created the plan: still ourselves
-Planner from construction company
-Architect
-Do-it-Yourself as much as possible (we set construction time to three years)
What do you like most? Why?
What don’t you like? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
Why did the design turn out like this?
Because this is how we currently imagine it
As mentioned, this is only a very first draft.
Hello.
Unfortunately, I’ve been very busy with selling the house and renovating the old house for the transition period.
But okay, I want to move out of the housing estate into the countryside without neighbors.
Besides, all friends and relatives come 99% from the area.
We simply don’t like a classic bungalow style with that kind of roof, so the space above would just be unused.
1) Of the 9000 square meters (about 2.2 acres), about 7000 square meters (1.7 acres) are currently used for hay production. A farmer does that for himself and I don’t have to work. I can do the same later. Then we have a “normal” plot size.
2) All the rooms I need are on one level without steps, etc., so it’s disability-friendly. The office upstairs won’t be needed, so it will remain unused.
3) It’s clear I probably won’t be taping ceilings in a wheelchair, but that’s the case in any house.
I don’t see any problem here, although I think I understand where you are coming from.
But yes, you get me.
Also, it’s the farthest from the street, which suits us better (not much going on in the evenings anyway).
Also, it doesn’t make sense to finish rooms I don’t need. Yes, the large roof is unnecessary, but it’s nice to have.
Not so suitable for our everyday life.
But I’m always open to ideas.
Thank you all for your responses and opinions.
Unfortunately, I’ve been very busy with selling the house and renovating the old house for the transition period.
pagoni2020 schrieb:Well, I expected the pictures to speak for themselves.
Of course, it’s difficult for people here to understand the actual background of your project from just a few lines and some nice pictures. As you said, you ultimately neither need an architect nor craftsmen and have clear ideas about everything.
But okay, I want to move out of the housing estate into the countryside without neighbors.
pagoni2020 schrieb:I never said there was a connection. They are completely different.
Personally, I can’t see any connection between the buildings shown, and that, along with the following statement, may contribute to the confusion...
pagoni2020 schrieb:I don’t really see it that way, as the bedroom upstairs is open again in the end, but of course, it’s a matter of taste.
The most recent pictures you showed from inside your current house are less to my taste and stylistically very different from the rest of the house sections shown, just as the exterior views of the old and new houses appear completely opposite.
As I said... I’m curious—
LostWolf schrieb:True, I will add that later.
I can’t really make out much from this plan.
It would really help to have a plan with dimensions and especially, as long as these are just colored blocks, indications of what each block represents.
LostWolf schrieb:The basement is actually the ground floor, sorry.
According to the plan, the main living area seems to be in the basement level (where exactly is the ground floor then?)
LostWolf schrieb:As stated above, it’s not about children’s rooms.
I also can’t understand from a few pictures why a new house is needed only 2.5 km (1.5 miles) away.
It looks like it’s because you need children’s rooms— but where are those in the plan?
LostWolf schrieb:I don’t think we need to discuss this. We simply don’t want that.
It’s also not clear to me why you don’t plan to have any overnight guests.
I would never tell my visitors “You have to book a hotel” if I have enough space.
Besides, all friends and relatives come 99% from the area.
Ibdk14 schrieb:Exactly.
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I assume that what is described and shown as the upper floor is actually the ground floor and took it as a typo.
Ibdk14 schrieb:Reasons are as stated above.
In my opinion, the OP doesn’t have to explain why a new house is being built just 2.5 km (1.5 miles) from the existing one, or why they don’t want guests to stay over, etc. Comments about how nice the “old” house is don’t help either. That’s none of our business.
Ibdk14 schrieb:As stated above, I will provide those.
What’s important are the requirements for the new home. Advice can be given based on the wishes expressed. But yes, more details are still needed, especially about the upper floor and definitely more precise measurements.
haydee schrieb:
Why? 9000 square meters (about 2.2 acres) would be a reason for me.
haydee schrieb:As I’ve already mentioned, we want everything on one level, with only the office upstairs. See below.
The planning doesn’t make sense to me. Large attic without use.
We simply don’t like a classic bungalow style with that kind of roof, so the space above would just be unused.
Alessandro schrieb:See above.
But I don’t get the upper floor. You’re only planning about 15 square meters (160 square feet)? What about the rest? It can’t be a gallery when you criticize the one in the current house as acoustically useless.
pagoni2020 schrieb:Currently, no one. That could change with age.
Who will do that then?
pagoni2020 schrieb:Exactly, so everything needed is on one level downstairs. In the worst case, the office upstairs will just remain unused.
Absolutely beautiful but hardly age-appropriate.
pagoni2020 schrieb:In general:
Generally, I think that “disability- or age-appropriate” is often used as a key argument in sales talks.
In everyday life for a person who is physically or mentally impaired, it certainly isn’t enough to simply make the doors wider or reduce thresholds, as is often done.
I think the OP wants to build a nice house for themselves, which I completely understand, but the real meaning of disability- or age-appropriate building is not fully clear here.
1) Of the 9000 square meters (about 2.2 acres), about 7000 square meters (1.7 acres) are currently used for hay production. A farmer does that for himself and I don’t have to work. I can do the same later. Then we have a “normal” plot size.
2) All the rooms I need are on one level without steps, etc., so it’s disability-friendly. The office upstairs won’t be needed, so it will remain unused.
3) It’s clear I probably won’t be taping ceilings in a wheelchair, but that’s the case in any house.
I don’t see any problem here, although I think I understand where you are coming from.
Würfel* schrieb:I don’t think the fences are that bad; we currently have 1500 square meters (about 0.37 acres).
Looking at the photos of the old house, I can see other houses and many (sorry, ugly) wire mesh fences through the windows. The new house is supposedly to be built on a huge plot in a secluded location with views of endless meadows and forests. I would also immediately move 2.5 km (1.5 miles) further away.
But yes, you get me.
Würfel* schrieb:I agree with you, but the south side is the nicest and the whole house will be fully air-conditioned.
I wouldn’t put the bedroom facing south if everything around is green. Or windows facing east? It probably won’t get as hot in summer.
Also, it’s the farthest from the street, which suits us better (not much going on in the evenings anyway).
Würfel* schrieb:As mentioned, that area is not quite right yet.
The dining table attached to the kitchen island makes the kitchen-living area feel a bit narrow, and I think it might be awkward to always have to walk around the 4 or 5 meter (13 to 16 feet) long kitchen-dining table island, even when setting the table. Maybe consider a nice bench seating option?
Würfel* schrieb:Exactly that.
Upstairs you can leave the rooms unused except for one office. If your attitude toward guests changes or the house is sold, at least you have a backup.
Also, it doesn’t make sense to finish rooms I don’t need. Yes, the large roof is unnecessary, but it’s nice to have.
Würfel* schrieb:I agree, but I want a vestibule since front doors have always been a weak spot in our houses. The current one isn’t great either, even though it was expensive.
If money isn’t an issue, I would make the entrance area more impressive. It feels narrow and cramped. Without measurements, though, that might be misleading.
Würfel* schrieb:The first one was nice but more of a vacation home.
Overall, it will surely turn out great. You proved with house number one that you can do it.
Not so suitable for our everyday life.
Würfel* schrieb:Yes, for the street side it will still have some.
Hopefully, the new house won’t need so many gabion walls and wire mesh fences.
Ysop*** schrieb:See above.
Yes, I would reconsider the hallway overall.
Ysop*** schrieb:That’s true, and unfortunately, I can’t think of a better solution. I’m not aware of any bungalows without this, except if you go directly from the living room into the bedroom.
Currently, you walk straight into a closet when entering the house, and the hallway snakes around the corner to the bedroom. This also happens in the current house as shown in the latest pictures. That would be too tight for me, and in the new house, the hallway toward the bedroom is also too dark.
But I’m always open to ideas.
Ysop*** schrieb:Thought about it again, and yes, you’re right. A window will be added.
I would give the walk-in closet a window...
Thank you all for your responses and opinions.
Without having read the entire thread, why are you drawing without wall thicknesses? Walls are the foundation and affect the proportions of the rooms relative to each other.
This makes no sense regardless.
Apparently, you want to create a home theater with Dolby Atmos.
First of all, I would move the couch away from the back wall, otherwise you sit too close to the rear speakers. The position of the subwoofer is also rather suboptimal.
I also find the laundry area in the passage to the parents’ section strange. Where do you plan to hang the laundry? I wouldn’t want to have to pass through the laundry room every time I go to the parents’ area.
The huge kitchen deserves an island, with 60cm (24 inch) cabinets on both sides. Otherwise, it looks a bit odd.
This makes no sense regardless.
Apparently, you want to create a home theater with Dolby Atmos.
First of all, I would move the couch away from the back wall, otherwise you sit too close to the rear speakers. The position of the subwoofer is also rather suboptimal.
I also find the laundry area in the passage to the parents’ section strange. Where do you plan to hang the laundry? I wouldn’t want to have to pass through the laundry room every time I go to the parents’ area.
The huge kitchen deserves an island, with 60cm (24 inch) cabinets on both sides. Otherwise, it looks a bit odd.
matte1987 schrieb:
I also find the laundry area in the passage to the master bedroom a bit odd. Where do you plan to hang the laundry? I wouldn’t want to have to go through the laundry room every time I want to get to the master bedroom. We use the dryer about 80% of the time, and when we do air-dry clothes, we go upstairs.
matte1987 schrieb:
The first thing I would do is pull the couch away from the back wall; otherwise, you’ll be sitting too close to the rear speakers. Yes, but unfortunately that takes up a lot of space.
matte1987 schrieb:
The subwoofer position is also rather suboptimal. To be honest, I haven’t really thought about it yet. It just fit there. What would you suggest?
matte1987 schrieb:
I wouldn’t want to have to go through the laundry room every time I want to get to the master bedroom. You won’t notice it—it will be a built-in closet with doors, so nothing will be visible.
matte1987 schrieb:
The huge kitchen would deserve an island with 60cm (24 inches) cabinets on both sides. Otherwise, it looks a bit odd. I can’t quite picture that or maybe I’m misunderstanding. Could you please explain again or sketch it briefly? Thanks.
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