ᐅ Single-family house, 150 sqm with basement and an additional 15 sqm on the upper floor, located in a rural/outdoor area
Created on: 2 Aug 2020 08:59
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hd45899
First Rough Draft
We want to start planning our new house next year.
We have put a lot of thought into the design to achieve a layout that works well for us.
The main living area will be on the upper floor with 150sqm (1,615 sq ft), while the ground floor will only have guest rooms / office.
The technical equipment will also be located on the upper floor.
Plot size about 9000m² (2.2 acres)
Kitchen/living room/bedroom face south.
What we don’t like yet is the kitchen and the fact that when you enter the living room, you directly face the TV wall, even though everything will be recessed into the wall.
Development Plan / Restrictions
The property is in an outer zone, so everything requires special permission.
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type see example (finish moved forward and with brick facade)
Basement, floors lower ground floor (upper floor partly finished), no basement
Number of people, age 2, 40 years
Space needed on ground floor, upper floor 150sqm (1,615 sq ft), 15sqm (160 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office?
Guests per year 0 – there are hotels
Open or closed architecture closed
Conservative or modern style somewhere in between
Open kitchen, cooking island No
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace possibly gas under the stairs
Music/stereo wall living room
Balcony, roof terrace No
Garage, carport Yes, but not planned yet
Utility garden, greenhouse No
House Design
Who created the plan: still ourselves
-Planner from construction company
-Architect
-Do-it-Yourself as much as possible (we set construction time to three years)
What do you like most? Why?
What don’t you like? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
Why did the design turn out like this?
Because this is how we currently imagine it
As mentioned, this is only a very first draft.
We want to start planning our new house next year.
We have put a lot of thought into the design to achieve a layout that works well for us.
The main living area will be on the upper floor with 150sqm (1,615 sq ft), while the ground floor will only have guest rooms / office.
The technical equipment will also be located on the upper floor.
Plot size about 9000m² (2.2 acres)
Kitchen/living room/bedroom face south.
What we don’t like yet is the kitchen and the fact that when you enter the living room, you directly face the TV wall, even though everything will be recessed into the wall.
Development Plan / Restrictions
The property is in an outer zone, so everything requires special permission.
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type see example (finish moved forward and with brick facade)
Basement, floors lower ground floor (upper floor partly finished), no basement
Number of people, age 2, 40 years
Space needed on ground floor, upper floor 150sqm (1,615 sq ft), 15sqm (160 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office?
Guests per year 0 – there are hotels
Open or closed architecture closed
Conservative or modern style somewhere in between
Open kitchen, cooking island No
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace possibly gas under the stairs
Music/stereo wall living room
Balcony, roof terrace No
Garage, carport Yes, but not planned yet
Utility garden, greenhouse No
House Design
Who created the plan: still ourselves
-Planner from construction company
-Architect
-Do-it-Yourself as much as possible (we set construction time to three years)
What do you like most? Why?
What don’t you like? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
Why did the design turn out like this?
Because this is how we currently imagine it
As mentioned, this is only a very first draft.
I assume that what is described and shown as the upper floor is actually the ground floor and have considered this a typographical error.
In my opinion, the original poster does not need to explain why they are building a new house only 2.5 km (1.5 miles) away from the existing one, or why they do not want to accommodate guests, etc. Also, comments about how nice the "old" house is are not helpful. That is absolutely none of our business.
What really matters are the requirements for the new home. Based on the expressed wishes, advice can be given. But of course, some details are still missing, especially regarding the upper floor and, of course, more precise measurements.
In my opinion, the original poster does not need to explain why they are building a new house only 2.5 km (1.5 miles) away from the existing one, or why they do not want to accommodate guests, etc. Also, comments about how nice the "old" house is are not helpful. That is absolutely none of our business.
What really matters are the requirements for the new home. Based on the expressed wishes, advice can be given. But of course, some details are still missing, especially regarding the upper floor and, of course, more precise measurements.
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Alessandro3 Aug 2020 08:55I quite like the ground floor. But I don’t understand the upper floor. Are you only planning 15sqm (160 square feet) here? What about the rest? It’s hardly going to be a gallery, especially if you already consider it acoustically pointless in your current house.
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pagoni20203 Aug 2020 10:11Please, nobody should share too much of their private life publicly; however, it is naturally difficult for outsiders to give appropriate advice on planning without knowing certain personal/private circumstances.
A good plan is precisely based on these personal habits and needs.
Since there are, among other things, exterior and interior photos of the current living situation and further usual private text included here, privacy concerns have essentially already been compromised. As regular internet users, we should not worry too much about this anymore, since all our truly relevant data has long been processed.
Regarding the intended age-appropriate or even disability-friendly construction (even in the old house? with stairs/gallery?), I notice the following contradictory descriptions:
This hardly seems like an age-appropriate or disability-friendly choice, not least because of the following...
Then who does the work?
Absolutely beautiful, but hardly suitable for older or disabled people.
...and certainly not in this case.
…so the old house is nice but neither age- nor disability-friendly.
In general, I believe that “disability-friendly” or “age-appropriate” is often used as a strong selling point in conversations.
In reality, for a physically or mentally frail/disabled person, simply widening doors a little or reducing a few thresholds, as is frequently done, is certainly not enough in everyday life.
I think the original poster wants to build a nice home for themselves, which I fully understand, but I don’t quite see the genuine consideration of truly age- or disability-friendly construction as it should be here.
A good plan is precisely based on these personal habits and needs.
Since there are, among other things, exterior and interior photos of the current living situation and further usual private text included here, privacy concerns have essentially already been compromised. As regular internet users, we should not worry too much about this anymore, since all our truly relevant data has long been processed.
Regarding the intended age-appropriate or even disability-friendly construction (even in the old house? with stairs/gallery?), I notice the following contradictory descriptions:
hd45899 schrieb:
Plot approximately 9000m²
This hardly seems like an age-appropriate or disability-friendly choice, not least because of the following...
hd45899 schrieb:
Do you have any employees?
No.
Then who does the work?
hd45899 schrieb:
The attic conversion was done because we like it
Absolutely beautiful, but hardly suitable for older or disabled people.
hd45899 schrieb:
So "disability"-friendly.
...and certainly not in this case.
hd45899 schrieb:
Imagine walking by the possibly open staircase into the living room and looking out directly through the 4 x 2.80m (9 ft 2 in) window
…so the old house is nice but neither age- nor disability-friendly.
hd45899 schrieb:
I don’t see it that way, since I can always manage with a ladder.
In general, I believe that “disability-friendly” or “age-appropriate” is often used as a strong selling point in conversations.
In reality, for a physically or mentally frail/disabled person, simply widening doors a little or reducing a few thresholds, as is frequently done, is certainly not enough in everyday life.
I think the original poster wants to build a nice home for themselves, which I fully understand, but I don’t quite see the genuine consideration of truly age- or disability-friendly construction as it should be here.
hd45899 schrieb:
The reasons are quite simple. We’re only moving about 2.5 km (1.5 miles) away. I’ve attached a few photos (the first three).
I guess I don’t need to say much more then. When I look at the photos of the old house, I can see other houses and many (sorry, ugly) welded wire fences through the windows. The new house, on the other hand, is supposed to be built on a huge plot with a secluded location overlooking endless meadows and forests. Honestly, I would move 2.5 km (1.5 miles) away too.
I probably wouldn’t place the bedrooms facing south if the surroundings are all green. Or windows facing east? That way, it won’t get so hot in the summer. The dining table attached to the kitchen island makes the open-plan kitchen/dining area look a bit narrow, and I think it might be inconvenient to have to walk around the 4 or 5 m (13 to 16 ft) long kitchen-dining table island all the time, even when setting the table. Maybe consider something nice with a corner bench?
Upstairs, you could leave the rooms mostly unused except for an office. If the attitude toward guests changes or you decide to sell the house later on, at least you’ll have a backup.
If money is not a big concern, I would make the entrance area a bit more impressive. It looks quite narrow and constrained. Without exact dimensions, though, that could be misleading.
Overall, this will definitely be amazing. You already proved with house number 1 that you can do it. Hopefully, with the new house, you won’t need so many gabions and welded wire fences.
Yes, I would reconsider the hallway layout overall. When entering the house, you immediately run into a closet, and the hallway then winds around the corner towards the bedroom.
In the recently added pictures, you can see that this is also the case in the current house. To me, that feels too narrow. And in the new house, the hallway leading to the bedroom would also be too dark.
In the recently added pictures, you can see that this is also the case in the current house. To me, that feels too narrow. And in the new house, the hallway leading to the bedroom would also be too dark.
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