ᐅ Single-family home for a family with four children – somehow still not quite balanced
Created on: 7 Feb 2026 15:48
4
4kidssun
Dear forum,
We want to build a single-family house on the outskirts of Munich with an architect, but we keep going back and forth without making much progress. Details are below, and we would greatly appreciate your opinions.
Many thanks for taking the time, and best regards!
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: just under 700 sqm (around 7,535 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio (FAR)
Site coverage ratio
Building envelope, building line and building boundary: none, corner lot
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of floors: ground floor + attic + basement (which is already suitable)
Roof type: currently gable roof in three directions, as we want solar panels
Style: modern – lots of glass with gable roof
Orientation: southwest-facing terrace, garden also southwest
Maximum heights / limitations
Other regulations
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable (see above)
Basement, floors: basement, ground floor, attic
Number of people, ages: 6 people – 4 children (3-11 years old)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use or home office? – work in the basement if needed
Overnight guests per year: rather no
Open or closed layout: living-dining area rather open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6 people
Fireplace: yes
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: optional balcony
Garage, carport
Kitchen garden, greenhouse
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or should not be included: Since we have three sons and four children in total, the overall layout is still not quite practical enough for me. We rarely enter the house through the garage but mostly through the main entrance, and it is important to me to have a wardrobe directly at the entrance, so we don’t have to keep going back inside with street shoes (which is currently the case).
House design
Who created the plan:
- Planner from a construction company
- Architect: architect
- Do-it-yourself
What do you like about it and why? – We generally like the living-dining area and that the living room is lower with a fireplace.
What do you not like and why? – We only somewhat like the division of the house into two parts and feel that the proportions between the living-dining-kitchen area, where we spend 90% of our time and like to gather with six people, and the entrance are somehow unbalanced. Furthermore, we find the children’s rooms upstairs quite close to the neighboring house (approx. 10 m (33 ft) distance, wall without windows – what is your assessment?). Also, we are not satisfied with the location of the staircase – maybe it should be moved to another corner or the north side of the house? From our point of view, with four children, the wardrobe should be very close to the entrance area. Overall, we find the ground floor layout unbalanced – large hallway but not a very spacious living area. We would prefer a smaller hallway and a larger living space.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 1.2 million
Personal budget for the house, including fixtures and fittings: similar
Preferred heating technology: geothermal and solar heat pump
If you had to give up on certain details / expansions:
- You can give up on: air shaft, possibly also garage entrance
- You cannot give up on:
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner?
Which requests were implemented by the architect? The living-dining area was suggested by us, since we liked having plenty of sunlight from east and west in the dining room.
A mixture of many examples from various magazines...
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
We want to build a single-family house on the outskirts of Munich with an architect, but we keep going back and forth without making much progress. Details are below, and we would greatly appreciate your opinions.
Many thanks for taking the time, and best regards!
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: just under 700 sqm (around 7,535 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio (FAR)
Site coverage ratio
Building envelope, building line and building boundary: none, corner lot
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of floors: ground floor + attic + basement (which is already suitable)
Roof type: currently gable roof in three directions, as we want solar panels
Style: modern – lots of glass with gable roof
Orientation: southwest-facing terrace, garden also southwest
Maximum heights / limitations
Other regulations
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable (see above)
Basement, floors: basement, ground floor, attic
Number of people, ages: 6 people – 4 children (3-11 years old)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use or home office? – work in the basement if needed
Overnight guests per year: rather no
Open or closed layout: living-dining area rather open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6 people
Fireplace: yes
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: optional balcony
Garage, carport
Kitchen garden, greenhouse
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or should not be included: Since we have three sons and four children in total, the overall layout is still not quite practical enough for me. We rarely enter the house through the garage but mostly through the main entrance, and it is important to me to have a wardrobe directly at the entrance, so we don’t have to keep going back inside with street shoes (which is currently the case).
House design
Who created the plan:
- Planner from a construction company
- Architect: architect
- Do-it-yourself
What do you like about it and why? – We generally like the living-dining area and that the living room is lower with a fireplace.
What do you not like and why? – We only somewhat like the division of the house into two parts and feel that the proportions between the living-dining-kitchen area, where we spend 90% of our time and like to gather with six people, and the entrance are somehow unbalanced. Furthermore, we find the children’s rooms upstairs quite close to the neighboring house (approx. 10 m (33 ft) distance, wall without windows – what is your assessment?). Also, we are not satisfied with the location of the staircase – maybe it should be moved to another corner or the north side of the house? From our point of view, with four children, the wardrobe should be very close to the entrance area. Overall, we find the ground floor layout unbalanced – large hallway but not a very spacious living area. We would prefer a smaller hallway and a larger living space.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 1.2 million
Personal budget for the house, including fixtures and fittings: similar
Preferred heating technology: geothermal and solar heat pump
If you had to give up on certain details / expansions:
- You can give up on: air shaft, possibly also garage entrance
- You cannot give up on:
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner?
Which requests were implemented by the architect? The living-dining area was suggested by us, since we liked having plenty of sunlight from east and west in the dining room.
A mixture of many examples from various magazines...
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
Do you like the exterior and the sloped ceilings in the floor plan?
I think the large hallway is nice. Friends have a big room used as a cloakroom, entrance, and hallway, about 11 m² (120 ft²). With six people and when friends come over, it’s not too big. You know yourself how much hustle there is and how many coats, shoes, and bags you have.
I would prefer to have the bathroom on the ground floor near the children’s bedroom. Otherwise, the teenager always has to walk through the dirty area.
In the kitchen, dining, and living areas, mark all the furniture you have or want in scale including space to move around. Also check the other rooms to see if the layout fits.
A children’s bedroom 10 m (33 ft) from the neighbor is fine. It’s more than most people have.
I think the large hallway is nice. Friends have a big room used as a cloakroom, entrance, and hallway, about 11 m² (120 ft²). With six people and when friends come over, it’s not too big. You know yourself how much hustle there is and how many coats, shoes, and bags you have.
I would prefer to have the bathroom on the ground floor near the children’s bedroom. Otherwise, the teenager always has to walk through the dirty area.
In the kitchen, dining, and living areas, mark all the furniture you have or want in scale including space to move around. Also check the other rooms to see if the layout fits.
A children’s bedroom 10 m (33 ft) from the neighbor is fine. It’s more than most people have.
4kidssun schrieb:
Modern style – lots of glass with a pitched roof Is this modern or just unusual? Looking at the 3D shape, it reminds me of 1980s modernism. But taste is subjective. If you like it, that’s what counts.
However, I want to note that the terrace side doesn’t look very inviting. Sitting on such facades, spending time on the terrace, really depends on personal preference.
I scaled the floor plan using a tool and noticed—looking at the angled extension on the west side where you have to wonder about the reason for the angled layout—that the main building body with the entrance, dining area, and so on doesn’t have any 90-degree angles on the exterior walls. It’s not a rectangular footprint but an irregular trapezoid, as is the “extension,” which is also an irregular trapezoid.
An angled extension can add visual interest to the facade, but I wonder how you plan to manage a neat roof here. The mason won’t have it easy, nor the roofer and carpenter. The complicated shape increases the risk of construction errors.
I then rotated the floor plan about 0.9 degrees with a program. This makes the lines and 90-degree angles in the kitchen and dining area fit, though the wall to the garage is no longer at 90 degrees. Well.
Also noticeable are niches that might make sense for one room but are disadvantageous for another. What about the corner between the room and the entrance door?
The kitchen wall is offset from the outer wall corner—how do you plan to neatly separate that with furniture?
What about the partition walls between the two bathrooms? In my opinion, the architect’s pencil slipped here more than once. There are too many placeholder boxes on the plan. Whether the floor plan is sensible or not. Also, there are too many “wall noses” (small wall protrusions) that could be eliminated.
4kidssun schrieb:
Number of floors: ground floor + upper floor + basement (which already fits) Since the basement foundation provides structural support for the additional floors, it is indeed important. I assume there is only a partial basement, under the “main house”?
This is not an attic floor but a two-story house plus roof.
Regarding the floor plan:
For four children, about 10sqm (about 108 sq ft) for the entrance area (excluding the hallway before the garage and bathroom doors) is, in my opinion, not oversized.
If you don’t need the garage passage, just leave it out.
The coatroom should be more accessible from the entrance door. 3sqm (about 32 sq ft) for a shower/WC is not ideal. There’s hardly room for changing or drying off.
Assuming that the room in the upper left of the plan is a child’s bedroom, where the shower is supposed to be important, I don’t see a smooth daily routine for this child.
Off the top of my head, I’d immediately suggest creating a sightline to the outside terrace from the entrance area—that is, swap door and window and remove the partition wall at the fireplace.
However, the coatroom area already feels too awkward. Moving the staircase would be beneficial, also to resolve the “slalom” upstairs with the bathrooms, but after several attempts, I can’t say where it would fit best.
It should also be mentioned that the staircase can’t simply be moved around freely; it should be fixed in the initial planning.
Moving on roughly: the kitchen size is a joke. It’s smaller than in my two-person house, which barely suffices. I have no explanation for this asymmetry. Our table and island are also angled but harmoniously arranged with intention, with the rest aligned. Here, it just looks arbitrary. The dining area offers no space for additional family guests.
The seating window in the west of the dining area obstructs access to the terrace. A step down to the living area—you either like it or not. It looks elegant but creates a barrier.
Upstairs feels too compartmentalized: many small sections that don’t effectively serve each room. Why is there a separate toilet in the master bathroom? Meanwhile, the shower is rather small, and the bathtub faces the neighbors. Children have to go through the dressing room to reach the bathtub. Again, I miss a practical daily flow.
There is no laundry chute on the ground floor, only the chimney shaft.
Smooth transitions and straightforward lines often look more stylish (like in the parents’ area). Rather than adding options for more doors through these wall protrusions, I would plan them intentionally and omit other doors.
The children’s bathroom, with 7.5sqm (about 81 sq ft) and better design, could also accommodate a bathtub. A sauna can be rectangular. The “projection” in the bedroom makes no sense to me. Is it due to the south side? For the room’s feel, a 180-degree rotation of the bed would be better.
Back to the south facade: a chill-out area where you mostly sit in the evening and a dining area where you want daylight are planned opposite each other with a facade overhang. This doesn’t make sense.
The more I look at it, the more I wonder if the architect overreached a bit with the design and development of the house. I get the feeling he usually works in a more standard range but here wanted to break out with the facade look and floor plan, unleashing what he suppressed for 40 years.
A children’s room 10 meters (33 feet) from the neighbor’s building is no issue.
Quick & Dirty with the available space:
By the way, the sofa is 3 meters wide (10 feet), which is not unusual for a household of six people. There would probably still be room for two ottomans, but no piano.
By the way: For one step, the area is probably too small.
The wardrobe can certainly be made more compact and the kitchen more spacious. This is just Quick & Dirty.

By the way, the sofa is 3 meters wide (10 feet), which is not unusual for a household of six people. There would probably still be room for two ottomans, but no piano.
By the way: For one step, the area is probably too small.
The wardrobe can certainly be made more compact and the kitchen more spacious. This is just Quick & Dirty.
H
hanghaus20238 Feb 2026 16:39The most interesting view is missing in post #6, while one of the others is shown twice.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Similar topics