ᐅ Shower tray longer than 140 cm: Can this eliminate the need for a door?

Created on: 6 Nov 2021 00:57
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HoisleBauer22
Hello everyone,

An acquaintance claims that for showers/shower trays longer than 140 cm (55 inches), you can skip the (glass) door because the water doesn’t splash that far. What are your experiences with this? Is it also financially worthwhile (cost of the glass door versus the price increase from 90 to 140 cm (35 to 55 inches), for example with steel/enamel)?
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motorradsilke
7 Nov 2021 05:49
ypg schrieb:

Because there are always extra costs when you need to build up a curb inside a room (screed installer) and then skim coat it (tile setter). They charge well for that.
Why? Ask the tradespeople…
Every step costs extra.

In our case, having the screed done that way didn’t cost extra. It’s not a huge additional effort anyway.
As mentioned before, no skim coating was done. What would you even skim coat? The floor is already the way you want it.
So the costs are just for the curb plus the tiles plus proper waterproofing plus a drainage channel compared to the cost of a shower tray. I can imagine that being roughly cost-neutral. Even if you choose a very inexpensive shower tray, pay a bit more for the screed installer, and select expensive tiles, the differences will probably be just a few hundred euros (the tiles plus waterproofing plus curb cost us about 250 euros).
You also need a wall, whether glass or tiled, with a shower tray. That will be exactly the same in both cases since you install it on a level floor.
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ypg
7 Nov 2021 13:12
motorradsilke schrieb:

As I already said, nothing was skim-coated there. What would you skim-coat anyway, the floor is already exactly how you want it.
I mean the slope of the flat shower area. It needs a slope. That is either skim-coated or handled in a similar way.

But I'll just let the original poster draw their own conclusions from this thread 🙂
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motorradsilke
7 Nov 2021 14:01
ypg schrieb:

I am referring to the slope of a level shower. It needs a gradient. This is usually smoothed with a screed or something similar.

As I mentioned before, the screed installer takes care of the slope right away. At least, that was the case for us.
Tolentino7 Nov 2021 21:54
An area of approximately 1x1m (3.3x3.3 ft) was left open, and the tiler is supposed to create a sloped screed. I don’t think simply applying filler would work, as that would initially add more height. So this needs to be taken into account already when laying the screed.
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HoisleBauer22
8 Nov 2021 21:31
Thanks everyone for your input. As an argument in favor of a tiled shower, I also considered that you can save the shower tray carrier used in a steel enamel shower. It requires quite a lot of space below (polystyrene block, sometimes 30cm (12 inches) high!), costs 50-140€, and would interfere with the underfloor heating / sound insulation layer. Or do people usually just omit both at that location?
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Alessandro
15 Nov 2021 10:36
ypg schrieb:

Because there are always additional costs when you have to build a lowered ceiling or frame inside a room (floor screeder) and then skim coat it (tiler). They charge well for that.
Why? Ask the tradespeople…
Every single task costs extra.

That is not the case for me, though. Nothing cost extra...