ᐅ Raising a Sloped Plot for a Concrete Slab Foundation?

Created on: 25 Apr 2022 19:34
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HalloClarissa
Hello everyone, I have previously raised the topic of a partial basement/cellar for a building plot with a 19% slope.

Today, a homebuilder told us that, partly due to the high cost of building materials, it would now be more cost-effective to backfill the slope and then build the house on a slab foundation. This doesn’t quite make sense to me, since the backfill material must be supported somehow, for example, by a concrete wall. The sales representative said no, that the stabilized backfill is simply allowed to slope gradually and then planted, creating a new artificial slope.

What does the expert community in this forum think about this?

Mann mit Rucksack steht am Straßenrand und zeigt auf eine Häuserstadt am Hang unter blauem Himmel
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sergutsch
26 Apr 2022 22:50
ypg schrieb:

I believe the original poster was asked, since it was ultimately about the Elk house.

But you are. Ever since your #18.. I’m reading on my phone and had to scroll because of your “I have” statements (or not 😉) to check if Clarissa was writing.. since this is about her issues.

Because up to now there were only opinions rather than facts being discussed.
It is generally known that prefab house suppliers usually build only on undeveloped land; many of them even require the foundation slab from the builder before delivering the house. If they do agree to a basement, it’s usually offered at a very high price. Building on a slope without a basement is only possible with embankment.
WilderSueden schrieb:

And the question must honestly be answered with no. Two points:
1. Of course, you can do the embankment as you did. But making the slope area safe and usable is incredibly expensive. Dead space is also costly, because it still needs to be reinforced and usually planted. Every planting requires maintenance. Maintenance on a steep slope is dirty, hard work.
2. You compare the same house once with a foundation slab and once with a basement. With that slope, you can use the basement for living space and typically save an entire floor. You have to fairly calculate that back in.

And I find the 90,000 saving very high, even ignoring the slope stabilization and planting; after all, layered compaction takes work too. And a 90,000 add-on for a basement seems high even on completely flat land.

PS: Plant two trees right at the edge at the right distance for a hammock. Otherwise, you won’t get that beautiful floating feeling anymore.

If the answer is “no,” Clarissa will have to dig into the slope. Because there are no other options for building on a slope without a basement.
The 90,000 figure for a basement is unfortunately realistic, although the number is from 2020. That was what a well-known prefab house manufacturer charged back then for an 8 x 9 m (26 x 30 feet) basement.
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sergutsch
26 Apr 2022 22:58
Our building area is located on a hill, and all plots are more or less on a slope—I know what I’m talking about. I feel sorry for Clarussa, but I believe the decision for or against a basement should fairly be left up to each individual. For my part, I just want to point out that it can work without one.
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kbt09
26 Apr 2022 22:59
Also, I think the slope on the site of @sergutsch is somewhat gentler than that of the original poster @HalloClarissa… see also another thread, for example post 48 by @gutentag… which mentions 19% slope, exactly 5.7 m (19 feet) over 30 m (98 feet).

Pictures from HalloClarissa


Man with backpack on paved path pointing towards a town with red roofs.

Sparse construction site with yellow curved pipe stub in sand, houses in the background.


Photo from @sergutsch… what gradient do you have?


Small village with white houses on a hillside, green meadows in front; red arrow pointing to one house.
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ypg
26 Apr 2022 23:01
sergutsch schrieb:

Because so far, the discussion has been based solely on opinions rather than knowledge.

Have you shared an opinion or described your project?
Either way!
There have been other threads from Clarissa asking whether to include a basement or not. It’s unfortunate that apparently no architect is being consulted. The house here will later be built on half-knowledge.
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driver55
26 Apr 2022 23:07
driver55 schrieb:

If it’s not real yet, then surely the plans exist. I would be interested in this "structure" as well.

I wanted to see the plans (natural terrain/planned terrain), not shots from 500 m (550 yards) away.
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sergutsch
26 Apr 2022 23:11
sergutsch schrieb:

...then it will be subcontracted at a very high cost anyway
it should have said "externally subcontracted"
ypg schrieb:

Did you express an opinion or did you describe your project?
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I tried to present the counterarguments. Our project was meant to serve as an example.

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