Hello everyone,
We are planning a semi-detached house in a new development area. The requirements are two full floors (attic optional) and a 20-degree pitched shed roof.
The developer has not been decided yet, but in initial discussions, they mostly suggested either an attic or an additional attic floor. Unfortunately, the attic floor is beyond our budget, and we actually find an attic unnecessary.
We had imagined leaving the space open upwards, but we were told that with a 20-degree pitch, the ceilings would end up being extremely high.
Now we are also unsure how good this will look in the end. So the question is: Does anyone have such a roof pitch and still keep the roof space open without an attic?
I hope I have expressed everything clearly…
Best regards
We are planning a semi-detached house in a new development area. The requirements are two full floors (attic optional) and a 20-degree pitched shed roof.
The developer has not been decided yet, but in initial discussions, they mostly suggested either an attic or an additional attic floor. Unfortunately, the attic floor is beyond our budget, and we actually find an attic unnecessary.
We had imagined leaving the space open upwards, but we were told that with a 20-degree pitch, the ceilings would end up being extremely high.
Now we are also unsure how good this will look in the end. So the question is: Does anyone have such a roof pitch and still keep the roof space open without an attic?
I hope I have expressed everything clearly…
Best regards
K
KnibbelDibbel19 Aug 2021 20:3611ant schrieb:
I strongly advise against planning semi-detached houses individually. I recommend searching for "A semi-detached house has TWO halves" and reading this thread https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/reihenendhaus-mit-gue-in-eigenregie-bauen.31198/, where the original poster @goalkeeper emphasizes that it’s not advisable to approach it alone just as a horror story, while still praising their general contractor who handles the municipal and neighbor-related challenges very well 🙂
I suspect you are only giving a very simplified version of your development plan. Additionally, some roofing materials are only recommended starting from 21 or 22 degrees roof pitch; a 20° pitch might therefore be strictly limited to zinc sheet roofing. Whether you have to extend the pitch all the way across the other half of the house depends on whether a setback floor (set-back storey) is allowed.
You must mean a general contractor. You could not choose a developer, but then you wouldn’t have to worry about the house yourself. At least try to involve the planner together with your neighbor; this doesn’t exclude different houses or construction methods, see also the first linked post online. Don’t build as if everyone has their own plot with full setback distances on all sides, and definitely don’t plan each half individually, especially not the half without a basement before the half with a basement, see the Goalkeeper thread.Our neighbors have already finalized their house design with Weberhaus. We acquired the plot through the municipality’s waiting procedure and do not want a prefabricated house.
The 20-degree pitch can only be deviated from if both neighbors agree on the same pitch. However, since there previously were no neighbors (us), they planned everything according to the development plan (20 degrees).
Neither of us is planning a basement.
KnibbelDibbel schrieb:
How high is it at the highest point? I think with the shed roof it’s significantly higher since the roof slopes up along the entire length of the house. It should be around 4.5 meters (15 feet). We are planning to add a level in the kids’ rooms in a few years, as a loft bed level made of wood.
KnibbelDibbel schrieb:
Some people already have no basement and no attic ... 😉 Then they probably don’t have any hobbies, suitcases, or things like that?!
Tarnari schrieb:
Suitcases, Christmas decorations, etc... the utility room really needs to be quite large then. Here is the list 🙂
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/die-liste-die-jeden-bauherren-zu-interessieren-hat.34418/
KnibbelDibbel schrieb:
Our neighbors have already planned and completed their house with Weberhaus. Ask them for their plans so you can at least adjust the profiles of the houses at the "joint side."
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
H
hampshire20 Aug 2021 08:49KnibbelDibbel schrieb:
We had imagined it to be open upwards, but due to the 20-degree slope the ceilings will probably end up very high, was the comment. I find the term "very" inappropriate. It results in a generous ceiling height and therefore significantly more air volume. The appearance is a matter of taste and execution; there is nothing extreme about it. If several small rooms are created upstairs, the room geometry can become somewhat unusual. Adding loft beds is an efficient solution for children and teenagers once they reach an age where safety concerns are no longer an issue. For me, increased air volume enhances the comfort of a room. You will need somewhat more energy for heating, but how much depends on the design. I would recommend paying some attention to the room acoustics of the resulting spaces; this is, in my view, an important aspect of any house design.
We are also planning a 20° roof pitch, but with a standard gable roof and a house width of 11.6m (38 feet). This way, we can create the previously mentioned sleeping loft in a child’s room under the ridge (about 2x3m (6.5x10 feet)). However, I wouldn’t recommend a span much wider than the tight 6m (20 feet), as it would result in rooms that are too tall and whose proportions become difficult to manage. Alternatively, depending on the use, a mezzanine level could be added again in the stepped upper floor.
I once had an apartment with a shed roof, but shallower (estimated 12–15°), which started at around 1.9m (6.2 feet). It was very comfortable and cozy to place the sofa corner there.
At the end of the day, it makes the most sense to build “in harmony with the neighbors,” otherwise it might look odd. This does not mean you have to build the same house, but heights, offsets, etc., can be coordinated.
I once had an apartment with a shed roof, but shallower (estimated 12–15°), which started at around 1.9m (6.2 feet). It was very comfortable and cozy to place the sofa corner there.
At the end of the day, it makes the most sense to build “in harmony with the neighbors,” otherwise it might look odd. This does not mean you have to build the same house, but heights, offsets, etc., can be coordinated.
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