ᐅ Set the windows 1–2 cm inward to allow for the installation of fly screens (insect screens).

Created on: 15 Oct 2023 18:42
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Ralf1980
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Ralf1980
15 Oct 2023 18:42
Hello.

In my previous house, I installed flat roller shutter guides, and whenever I want to install a fly screen (also with a flat frame) on the window, it becomes problematic because the roller shutter is too close to the window.
I then partially removed the roller shutter guides and used washers to create some distance from the window so the roller shutter could move past the window; this was probably not professional, but there was no other way.
For the newly planned solid house, the general contractor said that the roller shutter guides are only installed after the exterior plastering because otherwise, you can never service the roller shutter again if the guides are plastered in. Is this correct?

The position of the roller shutter is basically defined by the built-in box that contains the roller shutter.
Is it possible to set the window 2cm (1 inch) further inside and possibly use thicker roller shutter guides, or attach them with a 2cm (1 inch) spacer profile on the window?

Who defines the position of the window on the 36.5cm (14.4 inches) wall, meaning how far in or out the window must be placed?


Regards, Ralf
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Ralf1980
17 Oct 2023 11:09
I visited a construction site yesterday, and by chance, the plasterers were working on the exterior plaster.

The roller shutter tracks were plastered over.

I am wondering how it will be possible to replace or repair the roller shutters later if the tracks are embedded in the plaster.

I also found a guide profile with a spacer, but I am still unsure whether the roller shutter tracks should be installed before or after the exterior plaster.
Window frame with transparent protective film on light-colored wall; film is dirty and damaged.

Cross-section of a spacer guide track (53×34 mm (2.1×1.3 inches)) for roller shutters.
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FloHB123
17 Oct 2023 13:13
What does your general contractor say about your request for the fly screens?
It won’t help you to get a suggested solution here in the forum if it still needs to be implemented. Therefore, you will have to discuss it with the general contractor anyway.
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Simon-189
17 Oct 2023 13:51
Ralf1980 schrieb:

Who determines the position of the window within the 36.5cm (14.4 inches) wall, meaning how far in or out the window should be placed?

This is determined by the roller shutter box installed above the window. Depending on how far out its "slot" is positioned, from which the shutter curtain runs down through the guides onto the windowsill. When using venetian blinds (raffstores), the dimension is logically different because the blind requires significantly more space in front of the window. Accordingly, the windows are then placed further inside or outside, depending on the type of shutter box and type of shading.

There is no standard measurement. Shutter box manufacturer A might have the same dimension X to the outside for all wall thicknesses, while manufacturer B might have a different dimension Y for all wall thicknesses.
Tolentino17 Oct 2023 14:32
As I understand it, you can open the box from the inside and then remove the roller shutter there.

In our case, the guides were also integrated into the plaster. But who knows, maybe there are different designs. However, this should be explained by the window installer, not the plasterer...
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Simon-189
17 Oct 2023 14:43
Tolentino schrieb:

As I understand it, the box can be opened from the inside, allowing the roller shutter to be removed there as well.
In our case, the guide rails were plastered over too. But who knows, maybe there are different designs. This should be clarified by the window installer, not the plasterer...

There are also boxes with an external access panel. I have considered this option because of the thermal bridge issue despite insulation in the lintel box. This might be practical for bungalows, but it is absolutely impractical for upper floors—unless you don’t mind setting up scaffolding to access it for maintenance.

Embedding the rails in plaster makes sense to me, as internal access for maintenance is possible. If there is an issue with the shutter curtain, you usually have to completely unthread it to replace individual slats. I also think it looks better that way.