Hello,
As part of the planning process, the layout of the interior walls for the kitchen is not yet finalized. For example, due to the width of the guest toilet and a storage room, there is still some flexibility.
I am now trying to determine what would be a practical final dimension.
At the moment, the kitchen space has approximate internal dimensions of 350 x 350 cm (115 x 115 inches), plus a separate wall for three 60 cm (24 inches) wide cabinet units.
The standard width for base units is usually 60 cm (24 inches). Therefore, it seems practical to increase the planned dimension to 360 x 360 cm (142 x 142 inches), so that exactly six units fit side by side.
On the other hand, kitchens nowadays can also be designed using other common unit widths besides 60 cm (24 inches), such as 80 cm (31 inches) or 100 cm (39 inches).
However, I want to avoid any future issues if a new kitchen is installed later, so I think considering the standard unit size makes sense and should be practical. Overall, a kitchen planned this way will likely require fewer custom adjustments and could typically be more cost-effective.
Do my considerations seem reasonable, or does the exact dimension not really matter?
Or should some clearance be left at the edges instead of extending the counter right up to the door? If so, how much clearance should I allow? Would a dimension of 370 x 370 cm (146 x 146 inches) already be sufficient?
I have also discussed this with a kitchen designer, and the reply was basically that it’s all possible and wouldn’t cost more. I thought to myself, the bigger the kitchen, the higher the commission. So I am hoping for your experience.
Thank you very much for your help.
As part of the planning process, the layout of the interior walls for the kitchen is not yet finalized. For example, due to the width of the guest toilet and a storage room, there is still some flexibility.
I am now trying to determine what would be a practical final dimension.
At the moment, the kitchen space has approximate internal dimensions of 350 x 350 cm (115 x 115 inches), plus a separate wall for three 60 cm (24 inches) wide cabinet units.
The standard width for base units is usually 60 cm (24 inches). Therefore, it seems practical to increase the planned dimension to 360 x 360 cm (142 x 142 inches), so that exactly six units fit side by side.
On the other hand, kitchens nowadays can also be designed using other common unit widths besides 60 cm (24 inches), such as 80 cm (31 inches) or 100 cm (39 inches).
However, I want to avoid any future issues if a new kitchen is installed later, so I think considering the standard unit size makes sense and should be practical. Overall, a kitchen planned this way will likely require fewer custom adjustments and could typically be more cost-effective.
Do my considerations seem reasonable, or does the exact dimension not really matter?
Or should some clearance be left at the edges instead of extending the counter right up to the door? If so, how much clearance should I allow? Would a dimension of 370 x 370 cm (146 x 146 inches) already be sufficient?
I have also discussed this with a kitchen designer, and the reply was basically that it’s all possible and wouldn’t cost more. I thought to myself, the bigger the kitchen, the higher the commission. So I am hoping for your experience.
Thank you very much for your help.
J
j.bautsch21 Sep 2016 14:08Well, if you want the perfect kitchen for yourself, it definitely makes sense to thoroughly consider the entire kitchen planning process. And why not start planning the kitchen now? You’re not expected to buy it right away 😉
Since you believe or believed that 60cm (24 inches) cabinets are the standard, I assume you might not be very familiar with the options available for kitchens today (and there are many). 60cm (24 inches) cabinets are no longer simply standard.
Even IKEA offers more variety. I would also recommend moving away from the 60cm (24 inches) dimension for base cabinets whenever possible. Sizes between 80-100cm (31-39 inches) are usually more practical, while anything larger tends to be less convenient. Another important factor when determining the size of the kitchen space is knowing the ideal distances between workstations and the necessary worktop height. These aspects ultimately influence the room layout, especially when planning an island, galley, or U-shaped kitchen. The worktop height is also critical for the window sill height for any windows close to the work surface. The sill height should never be below the worktop height. You then need to decide whether you want the worktop to extend into the window recess or prefer a continuous glass strip or similar feature.
Since you believe or believed that 60cm (24 inches) cabinets are the standard, I assume you might not be very familiar with the options available for kitchens today (and there are many). 60cm (24 inches) cabinets are no longer simply standard.
Even IKEA offers more variety. I would also recommend moving away from the 60cm (24 inches) dimension for base cabinets whenever possible. Sizes between 80-100cm (31-39 inches) are usually more practical, while anything larger tends to be less convenient. Another important factor when determining the size of the kitchen space is knowing the ideal distances between workstations and the necessary worktop height. These aspects ultimately influence the room layout, especially when planning an island, galley, or U-shaped kitchen. The worktop height is also critical for the window sill height for any windows close to the work surface. The sill height should never be below the worktop height. You then need to decide whether you want the worktop to extend into the window recess or prefer a continuous glass strip or similar feature.
RobsonMKK schrieb:
but I can also plan the electrical and sanitary connections a bit later, right? You can plan them later, as long as it’s still possible at that stage. Therefore, I think it makes sense to decide early on where the water and electricity will go.
Kaspatoo schrieb:
Accordingly, it seems practical to increase the planned dimension to 360 x 360 so that exactly 6 units fit side by side. That won’t work if you plan to use corner cabinets, for example. But if you’re planning a single row, it can make sense to go for wider base units instead—e.g., 4 x 90cm (36 inches) = 3.60m (12 feet) plus filler panels and plaster, rather than 6 x 60cm (24 inches) plus filler panels and plaster. Overall, 4 base units at 90cm (36 inches) are usually more cost-effective than 6 at 60cm (24 inches), and you gain more storage space.
The original poster is primarily concerned with the details of the floor plan — whether it makes sense to move the wall by 10 or 29cm (4 or 11 inches).
I would also suggest taking some time in the evening to simply sketch out different options on graph paper. If you have no clear idea, a furniture catalog or even an online planner can be helpful. I personally used the 60cm (24 inches) module as a rough guideline. The 180cm (71 inches) measurement can also be useful, as it covers 90cm (35 inches), 60cm (24 inches), and 30cm (12 inches) increments. However, I would advise against trying to fit in every possible dimension in a kitchen, as that can make the space feel very cluttered.
I would also suggest taking some time in the evening to simply sketch out different options on graph paper. If you have no clear idea, a furniture catalog or even an online planner can be helpful. I personally used the 60cm (24 inches) module as a rough guideline. The 180cm (71 inches) measurement can also be useful, as it covers 90cm (35 inches), 60cm (24 inches), and 30cm (12 inches) increments. However, I would advise against trying to fit in every possible dimension in a kitchen, as that can make the space feel very cluttered.
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