ᐅ Semi-detached house in Hamburg with a general contractor on own land, two plus full attic floors, no basement

Created on: 26 Jul 2025 12:27
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1689owen
I’m looking for feedback on anything we might have overlooked. Tips on processes and organization are also helpful. (Details about the location, plot, and contractors involved will be shared later to keep things anonymous for now.)

We want to build a duplex and hire a general contractor (GC) for this. Each party has about €40,000 (approximately $44,000) available. The scope of self-performed work will differ slightly between the two parties but will mainly be limited to painting (including plastering and all related work) and flooring (excluding bathrooms). The attic may possibly be finished as self-performed work.

We have a few requirements:
  • Each party: 2 adults (bedroom, office) + 3 children (individual bedrooms)
  • Total house footprint around 165m² (approximately 1,775 sq ft). A preliminary building inquiry has already been made.
  • Noise protection necessary due to aircraft noise.
We also have some preferences (order does not matter):
  • Full attic living space
  • kfw300 program
  • Solid construction
  • Brick facade
  • Pitched roof
  • Central ventilation system
  • For both parties: rooms should not be too large (e.g., child’s room 10m² (110 sq ft), office 8m² (86 sq ft)); only one large open area for living and kitchen.
  • Each half of the building should be easily separable in the future into an accessible unit (basement) and an apartment (upper floor + attic).
Full attic living space:
According to the plans, we may build two full stories. We want to retain as much garden space as possible and, for this reason among others, would like to add a fully functional attic. By “fully functional,” we mean it can be used as living and working space and forms its own separate part of the apartment—not an open area connected to the stairwell (for example, the parents’ bedroom would be here). We were advised that having a concrete floor between the upper floor and attic would be sensible to achieve this. The attic could also be raised with a knee wall (dormer wall), which would greatly improve the interior height. Since the plans don’t specify maximum ridge, eaves, or gable heights, it will likely be restricted only by required setback distances. The setback to the neighboring plot is currently set at 3 meters (about 10 feet) for driveway, bike storage, and garage as border construction. This leaves a good garden area on the other side of the house.

kfw300 program:
This is very helpful for financing, almost essential for us. However, it comes with certain requirements that may cause additional costs. Which parameters would you recommend adjusting here?

Current status:
We have discussed financing preliminarily and set a budget framework. We already own the land. We are currently in talks with several GCs (ranging from smaller architecture firms, medium-sized companies, to larger firms like Baudirekt). We plan to decide on a GC in about a month. The options each GC offers will understandably influence our decision. We also still need to clarify whether we truly need and can afford a fully finished attic or if a pitched roof attic that could be finished later would suffice. A basement would probably be more expensive and provide less livable space than a full attic, so it is no longer a serious option. We plan to consult two or three more GCs to get feedback on possibilities and pricing.

Please feel free to ask any questions! This is already a lot of help. Maybe there’s even some additional advice out there. Thanks!
11ant24 Oct 2025 17:51
1689owen schrieb:

The first offers are coming in. That made me wonder how detailed I want to share sketches from architects, quotes from general contractors, etc. here in the forum.
I understand that the more details, the better the help can be. But the forum is public and
- anyone could potentially see my plot of land and know who I am,
- architectural plans and quotation drawings are probably protected by copyright,

I don’t call them the "usual suspects" and their house models the "GDB bottle" for nothing: there is no real creativity given the limited variants — with maximum optimization, every circle simply becomes a square. Whom do you think you received offers from? From the usual suspects would surprise me a lot, because serial building doesn't work for a quantity of "1 semi-detached house"; so they would already have to have a project in your neighborhood, and they would just place a "bonus copy" (varied only within the usual narrow option range) on your plot.

You have already told us "just barely enough" about your plot here and have correspondingly inevitably received the maximum amount of precise advice possible.
1689owen schrieb:

The approaches alone probably won’t work, so mm needs to combine something. Here’s the question: what would the advice be? Build minimally smaller and do a lot of work yourself? A catalog house with some DIY? Architect and smaller build, only shell construction, rest DIY? Or something else? Please briefly explain.

Building minimally smaller would already break that narrow option framework mentioned; that is neither logistically feasible nor would there be any spare square meters to cut. DIY is already planned: above the ground floor, the buyers will install the finish ceilings themselves ("by the builder"). Doing the lightweight interior walls yourself is also still possible. A common planner with the neighbors owning the other half and a joint (shell construction) general contractor — that is what I have always recommended.
1689owen schrieb:

Some semi-detached houses from the catalog don’t fit because they are too long (i.e., each half is too wide).

No, I already said: they fit. If you found ones that don’t fit, then probably from general contractors who only include semi-detached house designs in their theoretical catalogs for completeness (usually rarely or never actually built).

By the way, the "Goalkeeper" thread is not just a horror story about the stupidity of the mayor, neighbor, and the neighbor’s neighbor, but also contains a quite useful house design for your situation: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/reihenendhaus-mit-gue-in-eigenregie-bauen.31198/page-9#post-336541
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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ypg
24 Oct 2025 18:32
Written in July:
If you don’t do any homework here – and probably not for yourself either – you won’t be happy with these questions and answers, because nothing can be answered universally.
K a t j a24 Oct 2025 18:37
1689owen schrieb:

1. The house might end up smaller than what is usually typical for 5 people,
Integrating 2 children in one room and including an office within the bedroom – that would help to some extent. But then, why build at all if it doesn’t fit from the start?
1689owen schrieb:

2. we could reduce costs by doing some work ourselves,
With 3 children? Highly unlikely. Aside from that, what skills do you have, and how long can you handle the double burden of mortgage and rent because you’re progressing too slowly?
1689owen schrieb:

3. we find a catalog home that is affordable and fits reasonably well.
In my opinion, that’s the only real option, unless you suddenly become experienced professional home builders with multiple contacts to skilled tradespeople, and you manage all the contracts, planning, and organization yourselves.
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ypg
24 Oct 2025 20:08
You could also consider a two-family house with a semi-detached character if you all agree. Having the technical equipment in the middle already saves some costs.
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nordanney
24 Oct 2025 22:21
ypg schrieb:

You could also consider a two-family house with a semi-detached character if you both agree on that. Having the technical room in the middle already saves some space.
Specifically: a two-family house with two condominiums and exclusive usage rights for the respective parts of the land.