We are once again considering applying for plots.
To the east of the development area runs a relatively busy road at the town’s edge. From this road, you can enter the development area in the southeast (see image).
Plots 1 and 2 are accessed via the road above. Plot 2 is only accessible through plot 1.
To the southwest, there is a primary school and a playground.
The letter M marks the waste bin storage area for the semi-detached houses 3–6.
In the east, there is a former industrial site where groundwater has occasionally shown contaminant levels. Therefore, restrictions apply to groundwater extraction for plots 14–22, and stricter criteria regarding excavation depth apply for plots 16–22.
Regarding the house types:
Orange indicates classic two-story villas (9.5 m (31 ft) ridge height; 6.5 m (21 ft) eaves height)
Blue shows 9.5 m (31 ft) ridge height; 4.5 m (15 ft) eaves height
Purple with 6.5 m (21 ft) ridge height is not of interest to us
Light yellow with 11 m (36 ft) ridge height is not relevant due to the road
Our current thoughts:
We have decided on a single-family house, not a semi-detached. We tend to prefer the orange house type, but the blue is also acceptable.
The farther into the residential area, the less through traffic there is. We currently live in a neighborhood with only one access point, and for the first houses, the traffic is already quite annoying.
At the same time, to the west, we are farther from the former industrial site and the town-edge road.
Preferences are for plot 9 (located deep within the development area, garden facing west, slightly larger than 14 and 15), with the limitation that waste bins would be stored there. Then plot 2 (the largest plot with over 600 m² (6,460 sq ft), garden facing southwest), with the limitation that it is only accessible via plot 1 (we are unsure if this could be inconvenient) and there might be difficulty finding the connection to the rest of the neighborhood via the separate access road.
Then plots 14 and 15 (still sufficiently far from the road and former site), with the limitation that the garden faces east.
What are your thoughts on this?
Thank you.
To the east of the development area runs a relatively busy road at the town’s edge. From this road, you can enter the development area in the southeast (see image).
Plots 1 and 2 are accessed via the road above. Plot 2 is only accessible through plot 1.
To the southwest, there is a primary school and a playground.
The letter M marks the waste bin storage area for the semi-detached houses 3–6.
In the east, there is a former industrial site where groundwater has occasionally shown contaminant levels. Therefore, restrictions apply to groundwater extraction for plots 14–22, and stricter criteria regarding excavation depth apply for plots 16–22.
Regarding the house types:
Orange indicates classic two-story villas (9.5 m (31 ft) ridge height; 6.5 m (21 ft) eaves height)
Blue shows 9.5 m (31 ft) ridge height; 4.5 m (15 ft) eaves height
Purple with 6.5 m (21 ft) ridge height is not of interest to us
Light yellow with 11 m (36 ft) ridge height is not relevant due to the road
Our current thoughts:
We have decided on a single-family house, not a semi-detached. We tend to prefer the orange house type, but the blue is also acceptable.
The farther into the residential area, the less through traffic there is. We currently live in a neighborhood with only one access point, and for the first houses, the traffic is already quite annoying.
At the same time, to the west, we are farther from the former industrial site and the town-edge road.
Preferences are for plot 9 (located deep within the development area, garden facing west, slightly larger than 14 and 15), with the limitation that waste bins would be stored there. Then plot 2 (the largest plot with over 600 m² (6,460 sq ft), garden facing southwest), with the limitation that it is only accessible via plot 1 (we are unsure if this could be inconvenient) and there might be difficulty finding the connection to the rest of the neighborhood via the separate access road.
Then plots 14 and 15 (still sufficiently far from the road and former site), with the limitation that the garden faces east.
What are your thoughts on this?
Thank you.
Mangolicious schrieb:
What happens next?
Do you call local and large construction companies with floor plan ideas and a rough desired move-in date, then try to compare the descriptions of included construction services to find the best offer? No, see "Building Now": go to an independent architect only with a detailed specification sheet, without floor plan ideas, complete "Module A," then during the waiting period set the course. Based on the results, the architect carries out either only design phase 3 or the entire Module B. The best offer can be found using the method I describe in the "Selection Support" (which you can carry out yourself if you prefer the process over the goal). In this forum, enter the search terms "self-contracting" / "individual contracting" and "Gerddieter," where I have explained this in detail as well.
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Mangolicious1 Oct 2024 09:05ypg schrieb:
Haven't you made a decision yet?My sister built her house with Hanse Haus, and the entire construction process went absolutely smoothly except for a minor issue. They have been living in the house for almost three years now, and so far there are no defects. Because of this, we decided fairly early on to go with Hanse Haus, as the type of funding we wanted is also easily available there, and the turnkey standard mostly meets our requirements. Recently, however, we were convinced to simply compare turnkey offers with the local general contractor for solid construction, and we sent them the documents. I have also obtained the specifications from several companies specializing in timber frame construction, and I find Hanse Haus suitable—but comparing prices is extremely difficult for me.
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Mangolicious1 Oct 2024 09:0611ant schrieb:
No, see "Building Now": go to a freelance architect only with a requirements specification but without floor plan ideas, work through "Module A," then during the resting phase finalize the key decisions. Based on that result, the architect will then proceed with either just design phase 3 or the entire Module B. The most suitable offer can be found using the method I describe in the "Selection Support" (which you can also carry out yourself if you prefer the process over just the goal). Here in the forum, enter the search terms "self-contracting" / "individual contracting" and "Gerddieter," where I have also explained it in detail.Thank you, I will review everything carefully this evening.
Mangolicious schrieb:
My sister built with Hanse Haus, and the entire construction process went completely smoothly except for one minor issue. They have been living in the house for almost three years now, and so far there have been no defects. That’s why we decided early on to go with Hanse Haus, as the financing options we wanted are also well supported there, and the mostly turnkey standard fits our needs. Hanse Haus is one of the companies I encountered early on during my research on prefabricated houses, and they have consistently made a good impression on me for over forty years. Not the best provider (and there isn’t really a best), but always a top choice.
Mangolicious schrieb:
We were finally convinced to simply compare turnkey offers from the local general contractor for solid construction and sent them the documents. After all, the (masonry) builders also produce equivalent products (although achieving the same low-energy standard EH40 requires more effort). The main difference is that regional suppliers are usually more recommendable for the masonry builders. What convinced you to consider both options?
Mangolicious schrieb:
I obtained the specifications from several companies offering timber frame construction and find Hanse Haus suitable — but comparing prices is extremely difficult for me. Comparisons are always difficult when one follows the inevitable, disappointed hope that an Excel spreadsheet can somehow make apples and oranges comparable. In the end, it just shows totals that no one but the uninformed can really reduce.
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P.S., from a recently liked post that is about to be one year old:
It should, of course, say "With the preliminary design from the architect consulted afterwards."
The companies are best selected in two stages, with the proper tender process in the second stage for an active comparison of detailed scope of work descriptions.
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https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
Professionally, I find architects and construction companies and have already shared several posts here in the "Experiences with Construction Companies" section. It’s not rocket science to evaluate these companies, just look at the relevant posts. However, it does take a bit of practice, it’s not something you can explain thoroughly in just half an hour. But it’s better to first consult a financial advisor and then plan your house. With the preliminary design fromthisthat, you can then meaningfully start searching. I definitely recommend a proper tender process, and you can learn a lot from how the requested bidders respond.
It should, of course, say "With the preliminary design from the architect consulted afterwards."
The companies are best selected in two stages, with the proper tender process in the second stage for an active comparison of detailed scope of work descriptions.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Mangolicious schrieb:
I realize we are currently approaching this quite naively. That’s not a problem; there are experts available (I’m not the only one among the neutral independent building advisors, and there are even more colleagues specialized in turnkey homes). What I find more problematic than a naive approach is
# being semi-professional as a “cost-conscious informed consumer” (but without realizing that a consumer perspective is the “wrong lens” in an investor transaction), and
# going to architects (or even “architects”) with detailed preliminary visual plans, especially presenting polished “Sunday-best” drawings instead of sketches, including diligently memorized vocabulary like wall thicknesses with specific masonry units.
The more laypeople simply present their needs and wishes to the experts, the better. It doesn’t cost any more, and it actually makes working with clients more pleasant for the professionals, since they don’t have to undo any partial knowledge.
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