ᐅ Selecting a Plot in a New Residential Development

Created on: 9 Oct 2023 09:51
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Limbrandi
Dear Building Forum,

We have been ranked 19th in the points system (out of more than 40 building plots total).
In two weeks, we have the appointment where we can choose our building plot (from those available at that time).
The community's letter advises that we should pre-select 19 potential building plots, so that in the worst case, we still receive one of them.

Unfortunately, we find it very difficult to identify good or less optimal locations on the site plan.
Also, the slope of up to 1.5m (5 feet) depending on the plot (if I understand it correctly) makes it hard for us to imagine its impact on the future house.

I have created two conceptual categories:
N/E Development = Plots 16–18 + 25–27 + 31 + 38 + 45
S/W Terrace possible without N/E Development = Plots 8–9 + 11–13 + 15

Plot size of about 550 sqm (6,000 sq ft) would be our preference.

Which plots would you favor and what are the respective pros and cons?

I look forward to your feedback.

Best regards,
Limbrandi
Development plan: colored parcels (Type 1/2), residential areas, roads and green spaces.

Development plan with colored parcels (Type 1/Type 2, residential), roads and green area to the left.
11ant11 Apr 2024 12:02
motorradsilke schrieb:

These would definitely not be my favorites because of the access from the south.
For the terrace and garden use, I would always position a house as far north and east as possible. Otherwise, you end up with unnecessarily long driveways that cost money and take up space.

The reason I say plots 9 or 1 and not 5 is because 9 and 1 are single-family plots, while 5 is a semi-detached/semi-detached plot (which is a tricky one: if 8 forms a semi-detached pairing with 7, then on 5 you either have to do the same with 6 or 6 remains single and has to build a bowling alley with two building permits – not great for neighborly relations). Whoever waives the option of the small side entrance door doesn’t have to cram the garage against the northern boundary, eating up plot coverage factor, practically begging for permission reconsiderations. And sun worshippers move their loungers from the terrace to the lawn in March or October – "everything is possible" (to quote a favorite realtor phrase, haha).
motorradsilke schrieb:

Although these have oddly shaped building envelopes, that shouldn’t matter much since they are large enough to still build a nice house on them.

Fine by me. But with 26 I’m already hearing complaints that no square villa will fit on it.
Nice-Nofret schrieb:

I would prefer the riverfront plots because they border the landscape and don’t feel so enclosed, IF the flood safety is guaranteed.
I’d ask some of the older locals about that...

On the plan’s left edge of the defined area, you can see how far the previous generations kept the development from the floodplains.
motorradsilke schrieb:

That’s the question of how many “opponents” there actually are and when the original poster gets the chance to choose. If they are at the top of the list, they don’t have to worry about it.

I didn’t want to repeat for the umpteenth time in this selection discussion that the lottery process is the essential second factor after the degree of oversubscription (and questioners regularly enter this field way too naïvely). I assume the original poster will not be able to choose first and will therefore have to guess strategically – hence my question (at least as a prompt for consideration).
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motorradsilke
11 Apr 2024 13:29
11ant schrieb:

Why do I say lot 9 or 1, and not 5: because lots 9 and 1 are purely residential, while 5 is a mixed-use lot (which causes complications: if lots 8 and 7 are joined as a duplex, then on lot 5 you either have to do the same with 6, or 6 remains a single and has to build a bowling alley with two building rights – a real headache for neighbor relations). Those who give up the spare side door don’t have to squeeze the garage, which consumes floor area ratio, up against the northern boundary out of necessity. And sun lovers can move their lounge chair from the terrace to the lawn in March or October – “everything is possible” (to quote a favorite real estate agent catchphrase, haha).


All these are reasons not to choose any of the lots in the middle. Even if you place the garage as close as possible to the driveway, you unnecessarily lose a nice south-facing garden. You will always end up with more sealed surface area than with a driveway from the north (unless you prefer a north-facing terrace). And having the garage close to the main entrance has clear advantages – I wouldn’t want it 30 meters away if it can be avoided.

I didn’t want to repeat yet again in this selection discussion that the main decider after the oversubscription rate is the “lot lottery” procedure (and the people asking questions often approach this process way too naïvely). I assume that the original poster will not be the first to pick and therefore has to plan strategically – hence my question (at worst, just a suggestion for consideration).


Nowadays, I wouldn’t assume that anymore. But I would try to clarify that in the scheduled meeting.
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Limbrandi
11 Apr 2024 13:38
Hello everyone,

thanks for all the input.
I am currently on the move and will respond properly to everything this evening.

Just a quick update: we are currently ranked 10th – that info just came in.

Best regards
11ant11 Apr 2024 15:15
motorradsilke schrieb:

All reasons not to choose any of the plots in the middle. Even if you position the garage as close as possible to the driveway, you are unnecessarily sacrificing a nice south-facing garden. You will have to create a path from the garage to the house anyway. In any case, you end up with a larger sealed surface area than with a north-facing driveway (unless you prefer a north-facing terrace). And having the garage close to the main entrance has its advantages—I wouldn’t want it 30 m (100 feet) away if there is another option.

The fact that south only exists in all four cardinal directions at the North Pole cannot be changed. So, for a relevant south-facing part of the plot even in a worst-case layout, you need about 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft), which is also not up for discussion here. Or you still insist on your requirements, in which case it’s almost certain that only the three most popular plots will come into consideration, along with the consequence that you will need the highest luck of the draw.
Limbrandi schrieb:

Just to start with, we are in 10th place in the ranking—this info just came in.

If nine other players take their turns before you, then you can cross off the nine most attractive plots if they use the same criteria as you. Assuming an average alignment of tastes among the players, that still leaves four plots. Therefore, my fully serious question is how acceptable a consolation prize would be for you.
motorradsilke schrieb:

I wouldn’t have expected that nowadays. But I would try to find that out before the scheduled meeting.

Not “at,” but “before.” Your luck is that the other players generally approach this as naively as you do. For now, I wish you Masel tov!
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hanghaus2023
12 Apr 2024 10:56
I was in fifth place but still kept my plot of land, which was my first priority.
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hanghaus2023
12 Apr 2024 11:19
Good luck.

There are also some who don’t go because they have not been able or willing to afford it for a long time.

Additionally, you might be able to get on a waiting list in case someone withdraws.

I created a list with different criteria, rated by price, location, and buildability. Then I assigned 50% importance to the most important factor, 30% to the next, and 20% to the least important criterion. I then ranked each plot for every criterion and sorted the properties based on the total of these rankings. During the negotiation, I crossed out the plots that were no longer available, so I could immediately identify my preferred plot.

I knew exactly for which plot I wanted to be put on the waiting list.