ᐅ Savings from photovoltaic system, battery storage, and electricity cloud

Created on: 4 Aug 2022 10:12
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DaGoodness
In the construction cost thread, the topic of the usefulness of battery storage, energy cloud services, etc., came up recently.

So, here is a dedicated discussion thread on this subject.

Since May 2020, I have had a 10 kWp (kilowatt peak) system on my roof and a 10 kWh (kilowatt-hour) battery storage in the utility room. Additionally, since August 2020, I have been using an energy cloud service provided by the company Senec (EnBW).

With this service, the electricity fed into the grid during summer is credited to an account and can be drawn again in winter at favorable conditions. The general opinion on this topic everywhere is that it is not worthwhile. The same applies to the question of whether to have storage or not.

Therefore, I made a cost breakdown for myself and compared my current expenses with different scenarios such as "energy cloud service or regular electricity tariff," "photovoltaic system with and without storage," and the costs "completely without a photovoltaic system."

Attached you will find my breakdown.

Looking forward to an active discussion.

Excel-Sheet: Kostenvergleich PV-Anlage mit Verbrauchsdaten, Kosten pro Jahr und Einsparung.
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DaHias81
5 Aug 2022 15:12
Alright then: my price was gross, without scaffolding (we already had that) and not full black.

But back to the topic: That means you feed in a certain amount, and any excess is paid out at the standard feed-in tariff. In return, you are allowed to consume a certain amount. What happens with the difference then? So if you consume less or more?
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Dogma
5 Aug 2022 15:55
What is the cost per kWh with Senec when the storage and cloud credit are empty/used up?
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DaGoodness
5 Aug 2022 16:30
DaHias81 schrieb:

So then: my price was gross, without scaffolding (we already had that anyway) and not full black.

But back to the topic: That means you feed a certain amount into the grid, and any excess is paid out at the standard feed-in tariff. In return, you can consume a certain amount. What happens with the difference? What if you consume less or more?

Exactly, you pay a monthly subscription fee and for that, you can withdraw a certain amount of electricity from the grid in winter free of charge that you fed in during the summer.
If you feed in more, the difference is reimbursed to you. If you need more electricity from the grid than you feed in, you have to pay extra for all the additional electricity you use.
Dogma schrieb:

What does a kWh actually cost with Senec when the storage and cloud credit are empty/used up?

The cost for additional consumption currently is 28 cents per kWh.
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Snowy36
5 Aug 2022 18:03
sergutsh schrieb:

Moon prices meaning "overpriced"?
Nope, I haven’t seen 6,000 euros for such a large storage tank even in 2020… but maybe I was just lucky.
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Dogma
5 Aug 2022 18:39
DaGoodness schrieb:

Exactly, you pay a monthly subscription fee and in return, you can draw a certain amount of electricity from the grid for free during winter that you fed into the grid during summer.
If you feed in more, the difference is reimbursed. If you consume more from the grid than you feed in, you have to pay extra for the additional consumption.

Currently, my cost for the extra consumption is 28 cents per kWh.

That’s quite reasonable, I expected a higher price. What factors influence the price?
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DaGoodness
5 Aug 2022 20:55
Attached is the current price list as of August 1, 2022.
It's even only 27 cents :p

Preisübersicht SENEC.Cloud 3.0: Paketpreise für Basispakete 1000–5500 und 6000–10000.

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