ᐅ Renovation of an Existing Property – Our Journey to a Home
Created on: 13 Jun 2019 14:38
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LordNibbler
Since returning to Wolfsburg in 2017, we had been searching for a property. Initially, we rented to take our time finding the right house and to test the real estate agents.
Of course, properties meeting these criteria were expensive and scarcely available. The first viewings were disappointing:
Then, at the beginning of 2018, an offer came up that didn’t fully meet our criteria but was in the same neighborhood.
The house was actually larger than we needed, but the structure and architecture were excellent. Renovations were manageable (utility lines easily accessible, partly in shafts), and the leasehold was acceptable because the owners had prepaid their installments (there was a discount), so the annual fee was only 500€ (~$540). The leaseholder is the city of Wolfsburg, which by statute only raises interest rates upon resale (not during the lease term or inheritance). When purchasing the plot, the land value is calculated by the benchmark land value minus the redemption amount and with a 15% discount. In mid-2017, the offer for the land was therefore 118,000€ (~$128,000) (with today’s benchmark land value it would be about 150,000€ (~$162,000)). This was a bargain for the area and was included in the asking price according to the agent.
Still, after a second viewing with experts (not appraisers), we found enough arguments (wall crack, renovation needs) to negotiate the price down to 420,000€. The public offer was then reduced to 435,000€ (~$470,000).
A financing broker secured approval from the local savings bank (Sparkasse) for the mortgage (leasehold is a bit special here, mostly local banks are familiar). It was feasible as a 20-year full repayment loan (leasehold agreement had to be valid for at least another 10 years), with a potential buffer to save up the land price.
But there was one issue: the over-90-year-old occupant. She was looking for an apartment in a senior residence (ground floor, lake view). Every week we heard it was only a matter of days until one would become available. In the end, by mid-April, we had a reservation with ownership transfer no later than December, possibly sooner. So we committed to financing and arranged the notary appointment...
...and then a week later, there was a request for a meeting (bypassing the notary). The niece and sister explained that the reservation was declared invalid. The time pressure was too great. It wasn’t certain the apartment would be available yet. They felt the elderly woman couldn’t be expected to move into a care home. They wanted a purchase contract with more time — about a year (implicitly without a strict limit).
We only had 6 months interest-free financing extension, but could imagine a few more months. However, only with financial compensation (1,500€/month rental cost difference). The counterproposal was to buy as planned but with ownership transfer only after the occupant moves out (essentially the right to live there). This was not acceptable (due to hardship rules; in the end you own the house but cannot evict the old resident). The only outcome was an informal understanding: we remained interested, please inform us when the senior residence is arranged; if we find something else in the meantime we will get back to you. The agent (VR-Bank) was not very pleased since it had been difficult to get the three women to agree before. It wasn’t her fault; the dossier was the best prepared with all necessary documents and missing items obtained promptly.
Two weeks later there was another interested party. Moral of the story: we successfully lowered the price for others but they moved in in October 2017.
Here are some floor plans of the property as inspiration for other house planners:
The agent mentioned that in the residential area, maybe one property sells every 1–2 years. The rest are sold privately. Since we moved in, three houses have been demolished and replaced by new builds twice the size. Another is still a shell and is receiving a huge extension. None of these properties were publicly marketed...
...the search continues in the next post and how we finally found our home.
- detached single-family house (so no semi-detached houses)
- within walking distance to the city centers of Wolfsburg, Fallersleben, or Vorsfelde
- for existing buildings, construction year from 1960 onwards, even if not renovated, as long as the structure justifies investment (otherwise you pay for poor renovations that need to be redone)
- for new builds, located in a residential area with a coherent design concept (many new developments unfortunately look like model home neighborhoods where every option from the catalog has been used, but without creating a harmonious living environment)
- a larger garden with usable space
- no leasehold (common in this area)
Of course, properties meeting these criteria were expensive and scarcely available. The first viewings were disappointing:
- 5-year-old house in a new development: walls with cracks, water stains (from the foundation slab), unoccupied, agent said normal settlement cracks (but wrong direction and too large), suspected upward ground movement due to Posidonia shale underground according to the land use plan and construction errors
- 8-year-old house in the same development: not legally divided plot (3 houses on 2 plots), agent claimed legal division (sent documents with condominium declaration), neighborhood dispute (not ideal in a condominium under self-management)
- 1950s development house: severe moisture problems in the basement including mold, agent already had an offer for exterior waterproofing (franchise concept with suction lance) which was not expensive, basement height under 1.8m (5 feet 11 inches), so not usable
- 1950s development house: sold after only 2 years (hidden defects?), superficial renovation (cosmetic upgrades but original substructure)
- several other houses that left little impression (location, layout, quality, price not suitable)
Then, at the beginning of 2018, an offer came up that didn’t fully meet our criteria but was in the same neighborhood.
- built mid-1958
- very high-quality construction and workmanship for the time
- architect-designed house (engineer) for a medical professional (MD)
- hillside location, split-level, integrated garage
- district heating with concealed convectors
- well maintained, so renovation was minimal (bathroom tiled + ceramics, new roof 2002, new windows 1995)
- well-kept garden, granite paving
- 165m² (1,776 sq ft) living space + 40m² (430 sq ft) utility space
- 905m² (9,740 sq ft) leasehold plot at a dead-end street
- 493,000 €
The house was actually larger than we needed, but the structure and architecture were excellent. Renovations were manageable (utility lines easily accessible, partly in shafts), and the leasehold was acceptable because the owners had prepaid their installments (there was a discount), so the annual fee was only 500€ (~$540). The leaseholder is the city of Wolfsburg, which by statute only raises interest rates upon resale (not during the lease term or inheritance). When purchasing the plot, the land value is calculated by the benchmark land value minus the redemption amount and with a 15% discount. In mid-2017, the offer for the land was therefore 118,000€ (~$128,000) (with today’s benchmark land value it would be about 150,000€ (~$162,000)). This was a bargain for the area and was included in the asking price according to the agent.
Still, after a second viewing with experts (not appraisers), we found enough arguments (wall crack, renovation needs) to negotiate the price down to 420,000€. The public offer was then reduced to 435,000€ (~$470,000).
A financing broker secured approval from the local savings bank (Sparkasse) for the mortgage (leasehold is a bit special here, mostly local banks are familiar). It was feasible as a 20-year full repayment loan (leasehold agreement had to be valid for at least another 10 years), with a potential buffer to save up the land price.
But there was one issue: the over-90-year-old occupant. She was looking for an apartment in a senior residence (ground floor, lake view). Every week we heard it was only a matter of days until one would become available. In the end, by mid-April, we had a reservation with ownership transfer no later than December, possibly sooner. So we committed to financing and arranged the notary appointment...
...and then a week later, there was a request for a meeting (bypassing the notary). The niece and sister explained that the reservation was declared invalid. The time pressure was too great. It wasn’t certain the apartment would be available yet. They felt the elderly woman couldn’t be expected to move into a care home. They wanted a purchase contract with more time — about a year (implicitly without a strict limit).
We only had 6 months interest-free financing extension, but could imagine a few more months. However, only with financial compensation (1,500€/month rental cost difference). The counterproposal was to buy as planned but with ownership transfer only after the occupant moves out (essentially the right to live there). This was not acceptable (due to hardship rules; in the end you own the house but cannot evict the old resident). The only outcome was an informal understanding: we remained interested, please inform us when the senior residence is arranged; if we find something else in the meantime we will get back to you. The agent (VR-Bank) was not very pleased since it had been difficult to get the three women to agree before. It wasn’t her fault; the dossier was the best prepared with all necessary documents and missing items obtained promptly.
Two weeks later there was another interested party. Moral of the story: we successfully lowered the price for others but they moved in in October 2017.
Here are some floor plans of the property as inspiration for other house planners:
The agent mentioned that in the residential area, maybe one property sells every 1–2 years. The rest are sold privately. Since we moved in, three houses have been demolished and replaced by new builds twice the size. Another is still a shell and is receiving a huge extension. None of these properties were publicly marketed...
...the search continues in the next post and how we finally found our home.
LordNibbler27 Nov 2019 16:22New wall, still with temporary electrical supply for the room:
(11.02.2019)
Due to the reduced room size, we rearranged the furniture, removed a cabinet, and installed a new worktop.
(22.03.2019)
The 735mm (29 inches) sliding door arrived much later. Everyone was overwhelmed again, but the store allowed a custom order. After eight weeks of delivery time, the door arrived and was installed at the end of August.
(27.08.2019)
Now I just need a carpenter for the matching door frame (hence the gap).
Due to the reduced room size, we rearranged the furniture, removed a cabinet, and installed a new worktop.
The 735mm (29 inches) sliding door arrived much later. Everyone was overwhelmed again, but the store allowed a custom order. After eight weeks of delivery time, the door arrived and was installed at the end of August.
Now I just need a carpenter for the matching door frame (hence the gap).
Respect for the work.
But then do it right from the start. I don’t understand. You have really done SO much in the kitchen, bathroom, and basement, so you could really finish the kitchen and bathroom at the same time. To me, nothing speaks against this except for extreme financial constraints. Especially since you have done almost everything else anyway.
And removing tiles and smoothing with ready-mixed plaster is not a huge effort.
But then do it right from the start. I don’t understand. You have really done SO much in the kitchen, bathroom, and basement, so you could really finish the kitchen and bathroom at the same time. To me, nothing speaks against this except for extreme financial constraints. Especially since you have done almost everything else anyway.
And removing tiles and smoothing with ready-mixed plaster is not a huge effort.
LordNibbler28 Nov 2019 07:04The main reasons were primarily timing issues and dependencies on other tasks. The renovation of the basement walls took much longer than expected. For a complete renovation of the bathroom and kitchen, the new heating system and electrical installations would have needed to be in place already.
For us, it was a trade-off between moving into our own house early and paying extra for an apartment.
For us, it was a trade-off between moving into our own house early and paying extra for an apartment.
Why renovate the basement first and not the other rooms? Will the basement become living space? And seriously, you’re really doing impressive work in the kitchen with the built-up wall, etc. A few channels for the electrical wiring wouldn’t have made much difference at that point. And the pipes for a future heating system are negligible with this scope of work.
But never mind, that sounds too negative. I really think the work is very good and impressive. It’s great how much you’re doing yourselves.
And it’s nice that you showed the pipe after the water meter. We replaced all our water pipes for the same reason. That’s a great example.
But never mind, that sounds too negative. I really think the work is very good and impressive. It’s great how much you’re doing yourselves.
And it’s nice that you showed the pipe after the water meter. We replaced all our water pipes for the same reason. That’s a great example.
LordNibbler schrieb:
PS: I hope I'm not overwhelming anyone with the image sizes; there’s still a lot more showing what we completed in the first 4 months before moving in. The apartment lease was terminated, so it had to be finished. No worries about too many pictures here. More are always welcome!
LordNibbler28 Nov 2019 11:08Unfortunately, I can't find any photos of it anymore. But the horizontal waste pipes were more than 50% clogged.
Here is an additional note from the bathroom. This is what it looked like when the old partition wall at the toilet was removed and the even older one was revealed.
Here is an additional note from the bathroom. This is what it looked like when the old partition wall at the toilet was removed and the even older one was revealed.
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