Hello everyone!
According to an expert report, our garage with a basement is at risk of collapse because the reinforcement in the basement ceiling is corroded and partly exposed.
So far, we have received three renovation proposals from three different experts.
The most drastic one was to fill in the basement and rebuild the garage.
Another company sees the main problem as water penetration through the deteriorated asphalt surface of the garage driveway.
Their recommendation is therefore to renovate the driveway.
The cost estimate for 95m² (1,023 sq ft), including excavation, ground preparation, and asphalt paving, is 9,700 (currency) including VAT (they factored in that a knowledgeable friend is helping for free).
For aesthetic reasons, I would prefer paving stones. Now the company says that would cost TWICE as much and would not solve the moisture problem because paved surfaces are not waterproof.
I don’t understand either argument.
After researching on forums for a while, I have not found any indication that paving stones are significantly more expensive.
And wouldn’t EVERYONE who installs paving stones have moisture problems if only asphalt is waterproof?
(I should mention that I have not yet spoken to the company myself; my co-owner handled that.)
Thank you in advance for your advice!
Anna
According to an expert report, our garage with a basement is at risk of collapse because the reinforcement in the basement ceiling is corroded and partly exposed.
So far, we have received three renovation proposals from three different experts.
The most drastic one was to fill in the basement and rebuild the garage.
Another company sees the main problem as water penetration through the deteriorated asphalt surface of the garage driveway.
Their recommendation is therefore to renovate the driveway.
The cost estimate for 95m² (1,023 sq ft), including excavation, ground preparation, and asphalt paving, is 9,700 (currency) including VAT (they factored in that a knowledgeable friend is helping for free).
For aesthetic reasons, I would prefer paving stones. Now the company says that would cost TWICE as much and would not solve the moisture problem because paved surfaces are not waterproof.
I don’t understand either argument.
After researching on forums for a while, I have not found any indication that paving stones are significantly more expensive.
And wouldn’t EVERYONE who installs paving stones have moisture problems if only asphalt is waterproof?
(I should mention that I have not yet spoken to the company myself; my co-owner handled that.)
Thank you in advance for your advice!
Anna
nelly190 schrieb:
And what does this company plan to do about the damage to the basement ceiling? It probably depends on the type of paving you want. A good paving stone already costs around 25–30 euros per sq m (around 2.30–2.80 USD per sq ft). Well, the company is only charging 100 euros per sq m (about 9.30 USD per sq ft). That would be about a third of the price. Of course, I don’t know how expensive asphalt is.
Which paving stone is that exactly? For that price, I’d even have it installed if necessary. For half that, you can get decent paving, even under 10 euros per sq m (under 1 USD per sq ft) if needed. It will look accordingly, but still good quality.Hello!
So far, we have consulted 2 companies and 1 surveyor, and unfortunately received differing opinions. One says to fill in and build new garages on top, costing around 90,000. The surveyor suggests constructing additional concrete walls and a ceiling inside the basement (which is not necessarily needed). The third company says they can only assess the condition of the ceiling once the cross-section is exposed (during the renovation of the driveway/forecourt).
Apparently, water entering the basement through the damaged forecourt is responsible for the corroded reinforcement. Regarding the forecourt renovation, I would like to know if a simple concrete paving could really cost twice as much—rough estimate. I have not come across such a large price difference in various forums so far.
(Of course, the real issue is the basement repair... I’m just afraid that if I ask 3 more companies, I’ll get 3 more opinions and become completely confused...)
So far, we have consulted 2 companies and 1 surveyor, and unfortunately received differing opinions. One says to fill in and build new garages on top, costing around 90,000. The surveyor suggests constructing additional concrete walls and a ceiling inside the basement (which is not necessarily needed). The third company says they can only assess the condition of the ceiling once the cross-section is exposed (during the renovation of the driveway/forecourt).
Apparently, water entering the basement through the damaged forecourt is responsible for the corroded reinforcement. Regarding the forecourt renovation, I would like to know if a simple concrete paving could really cost twice as much—rough estimate. I have not come across such a large price difference in various forums so far.
(Of course, the real issue is the basement repair... I’m just afraid that if I ask 3 more companies, I’ll get 3 more opinions and become completely confused...)
Anna74 schrieb:
Hello!
So far, we have consulted 2 companies and 1 surveyor, so unfortunately we have different opinions. One suggests “filling in and building new garages on top, estimated cost around 90,000!!!!!”
The surveyor recommends constructing additional concrete walls and a ceiling inside the basement (which might not even be needed). The third company says they can only assess the condition of the ceiling if the cross-section is exposed (during the renovation of the front yard).
Apparently, water entering the basement through the deteriorated front yard is causing the reinforcement to rust...
Regarding the front yard renovation, I wonder whether simple concrete paving can really cost twice as much... Just a rough estimate. Because I haven’t seen such a large price difference in various forums yet...
(Of course, the real issue is the basement repair... I’m just afraid that if I bring in 3 more companies, I’ll get 3 more opinions and end up totally confused.... A look into the crystal ball tells me that this is possible.
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Bieber081525 Oct 2016 16:58Anna74 schrieb:
Supposedly, water entering the basement through the dilapidated front yard is to blame for the rusted reinforcement....In the case of structural damage, the cause should always be identified and eliminated first. Only then can the actual damage be repaired. I understand that for a deteriorated basement ceiling, the exterior perimeter needs to be excavated to determine if and how damage was caused there. Specifically, an expert on site handles the necessary steps.But, shouldn’t only a small section of the driveway need to be dug up? Why does the entire driveway have to be replaced? Also, the building should be waterproofed, so the driveway itself—which is not waterproof—should not be the cause of the damage.
Anna74 schrieb:
Regarding the front yard renovation, I’m curious if simply concrete paving really can cost twice as much....Yes, that can happen. Why not? Get a comparison quote for the concrete paving...Similar topics