ᐅ Removing a wall: load-bearing or non-load-bearing?

Created on: 21 Apr 2017 14:57
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Dzenan73
Hello friends,

I would like to remove a wall and take about 10 cm (4 inches) off the upper part of the wall. I want to do this to give the stove a bit more space.

I strongly suspect that it is a load-bearing wall. My question is, if I want to remove it as marked, can I do it like that, or should/must I install a steel beam? The wall is made of brick, but I’m not exactly sure what kind. However, you are experts and can probably tell from the photo 😉

Thank you for your help.

P.S.
Behind the upright wall, I would also like to remove about 70 cm (28 inches) of masonry that runs parallel to the stove.

Living room with wood stove in a tiled niche, wooden door on the left, room visible on the right


Cracked brown wall with damaged plaster and exposed brickwork
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Dzenan73
22 Apr 2017 18:56
@ Kaspatoo
No, no, I would definitely apply for a building company; I wouldn’t do something like this on my own 🙂. It would be easier to do if it wasn’t a load-bearing wall.
But now a silly question. If you assume it’s a load-bearing wall and have it done professionally, then you don’t need to hire a structural engineer, right?
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Caspar2020
22 Apr 2017 19:15
Dzenan73 schrieb:
If you assume it’s a load-bearing wall and have it done professionally, you don’t need to hire a structural engineer, right?

How can it be done professionally if you skip the structural engineer / civil engineer? 🙄

Just slapping in a steel beam by a bricklayer is not okay 🤨
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Joedreck
22 Apr 2017 19:16
No one here can really assess that. Walls not only carry loads from above but also stabilize the structure itself. I seriously doubt anyone would recommend doing it roughly or informally, whether with a company or privately.
Kaspatoo23 Apr 2017 02:32
If you hire a construction company for this, they will also ensure structural safety and plan the procedure. You don’t need to plan the process in detail yourself—that’s what a construction company is for.

Visit different companies and get quotes. Make sure the offer assumes a load-bearing wall.
11ant23 Apr 2017 14:07
Dzenan73 schrieb:

But now a silly question. If you’re dealing with a load-bearing wall and have the work done professionally, then you don’t need to hire a structural engineer, right?

Yes, that is absolutely correct — the silly question part, that is. Assuming it’s not a load-bearing wall, or capable of being one, and you then support it with a steel beam. Then you’ll quickly find yourself in trouble, because the steel beam will sit far lower than any Manta.

Are you avoiding consulting a structural engineer to carry out the renovation without a building permit / planning permission? — “just a small wire and you’re perfectly connected” doesn’t work like that in construction.
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Dzenan73
23 Apr 2017 17:32
All right, thanks a lot for your advice. I will get the house floor plan from the building authority and then take it to the structural engineer. It looks like this is not as simple as I thought. This way, I will definitely be on the safe side.