ᐅ Remove the tile floor or install parquet/vinyl flooring over it?

Created on: 13 Sep 2021 00:22
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HubiTrubi40
Hello everyone,

I raised this topic in another thread, but it seems more appropriate here. I wanted to get an idea of whether it’s feasible to install hardwood flooring over tiles (I wouldn’t do it myself, since I have no experience with this) or if the tiles need to be removed first. I have read that it is possible, but I’m wondering how the transition to the kitchen, which is tiled, or to the hallway works, and whether door trimming would need to be considered. Also, the tiles aren’t perfectly level—I haven’t measured, but there appear to be slight unevenness, and in the middle, the screed seems to have settled a bit (see photo).

What should I expect to pay per square meter (if the tile floor can stay)? I wouldn’t choose expensive hardwood; I’ve seen some nice options around 50 euros/m² (about 4.65 USD/ft²).

Also, upstairs we plan to replace the carpet with hardwood or vinyl flooring (I lean toward hardwood since it can be sanded). The carpet can be removed quite easily, but only the pile; underneath remains a layer (either adhesive or foam). Can flooring be installed over that, or does it need to be completely sanded off?

Thanks in advance and best regards,

Hubi
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ypg
17 Dec 2021 17:51
HubiTrubi40 schrieb:

My bigger problem is that my all-rounder kept getting more expensive
How much does he charge currently?
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HubiTrubi40
17 Dec 2021 21:46
ypg schrieb:

How much is he charging right now?
For delivery of the parquet flooring, baseboards, and installation, it’s 130 euros per square meter (approx. 12 USD/sq ft) net. The parquet itself costs 60 euros per square meter (approx. 5.50 USD/sq ft). So, about 70 euros per square meter (approx. 6 USD/sq ft) for installation. I believe filling (puttying) is included as well. But no removal of the subfloor and/or sanding.
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ypg
17 Dec 2021 23:21
HubiTrubi40 schrieb:

But do not remove or sand the substrate.
I see. I thought a general contractor would do everything, including the preparatory work, either on an hourly rate or fixed price. 70€ is reasonable nowadays. Paying under the table is of course cheaper, but you don’t want that either. Remember that you can deduct the tradesmen’s invoices for tax purposes.
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HubiTrubi40
18 Dec 2021 12:49
ypg schrieb:

70€ nowadays is okay.
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ypg schrieb:

Oh, I see. I thought as a general contractor he would do everything, including the preparatory work, either charged hourly or with a flat rate. 70€ nowadays is okay. Undeclared work is of course cheaper, but you don’t want that anyway. Keep in mind that you can deduct the craftsmen’s invoices for tax purposes.
But is 70 euros (net, not gross), with VAT added on top, alright just for the filling (I think that was included) and then laying the parquet? I just tried to calculate the material costs for the filler. That’s maybe 3 or 4 euros per square meter (sqm). Often, self-leveling compound is used. That isn’t much work either.
I’m still waiting for two other quotes. But one already said that with installation it would be 40 euros net. I guess we have to wait and see what the final offer looks like when I get it.
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HubiTrubi40
19 Dec 2021 23:53
HubiTrubi40 schrieb:

So, only for ●

But is 70 euros (net) — not gross — including just the skim coating (I think that was included) and then laying the parquet flooring okay? I’ve only tried to calculate the material cost for the skim coat so far. That might be about 3 or 4 euros per square meter (approximately 0.3 to 0.4 USD/sq ft). Often, self-leveling compound is used. That usually doesn’t require that much labor either.
I’m still waiting for two more quotes. But one already mentioned that once installed, it would be 40 euros net per square meter (approximately 0.3 USD/sq ft). However, I think we’ll have to wait and see what the final quote says.

So, sanding is included, at least. The milling of the substrate (carpet or tile adhesive) is not.
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ypg
20 Dec 2021 10:21
HubiTrubi40 schrieb:

So, the sanding is done, at least. The milling of the substrate (carpet or tile adhesive) is not.
He knows exactly why: a terrible job (no beep this time), you spend days working on it, carpet adhesive is really nasty and can’t be removed completely even with many different tools.