ᐅ Setback gable wall, loggia at the gable end, additional cost

Dear community,

After extensive and thorough reading, I would like to write my first post. We are currently planning to build a new house and are still at a very early stage of the planning process. However, to move forward, I have a question and would appreciate your expertise.

I found a design for the gable of the house that I really like (see image: Desired Gable). There is a provider where you can also find a price for the prefab house, but this is not enough for comparison and would also be way too expensive.

My idea is: Why not simply extend the roof at the gable of a "standard house" by 1.80 m (6 feet), then extend the walls down accordingly, and cover the underside of the roof as well as the house wall with wood cladding?

What do you think about the additional costs? We are currently planning with a living area of 150 m² (1,615 sq ft) and a relatively simple house for about 400,000 to 430,000 euros. For such a gable, I would be willing to pay an extra 50,000 euros. But is that realistic?

Why do I ask: Because this would change the entire planning, such as how the house is positioned on the plot, the layout of the rooms, and so on.

I know this is very general, and I just want to get a sense of whether the project is realistic in this form.

Armbrust schrieb:

For such a gable, I would be willing to pay 50,000 euros more. But is this realistic?

Seriously? That really impresses me!
I grew up at a time when these loggias were installed everywhere, including in my parents’ house. I had my childhood bedroom up there – with a fully gabled window area – and I’ll tell you: I don’t know anyone* who actually used that space in the surrounding houses, myself included. I preferred lying on the grass in the garden…
* except for those who lived upstairs in a two-family house.

Armbrust schrieb:

Why not simply extend the roof at the gable by 1.80 m (6 feet) for a "standard house"

By the way, it seems your concern isn’t the gable itself, but the projecting loggia (because the gables you mentioned are quite different…) And you say it yourself: extend the roof at the gable, etc.

The problem is that with a loggia, you create thermal bridges through the shared roof and the intermediate floor – the costs may be somewhat lower than the quoted 50,000 euros (for two standard terrace doors leading to the loggia), but instead you bring energy-related issues into the house – and all just because you want to hang red geraniums somewhere.
A more reasonable solution would be to invest the money in living space – I know you didn’t ask about that, but I would reconsider it if I were you.

Armbrust schrieb:

Why am I asking? Because this would change the entire planning, including how the house is positioned on the plot, the layout of the rooms, and so on.

Well, then you already have your answer: changing the positioning of the house on the plot would "cost" you—significantly more than the additional price, which is probably well under 50,000.
Why do you want that: a smoker’s balcony in the attic, or fear of "being confused" with others?
This tweak alone will not make your home a unique showpiece worth admiring.

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ypg schrieb:

By the way, it seems your concern isn’t the gable itself, but the front loggia (since the gables you showed are quite different…) And you said it yourself: extending the roof at the gable, etc.

My concern is not the loggia, but the gable with the walls on the left and right. Thanks for the tip about thermal bridges—that makes sense.

11ant schrieb:

Well, then you already have your answer: changing the orientation of the house on the plot would “cost” you—and significantly more than the additional price of probably well under 50k.

During my planning phase, the orientation of the house doesn’t cost me anything yet. I had a floor plan ready, but overall I wasn’t very happy with it because it would just be a plain-standard single-family house. I also have other ideas, but I know that the budget won’t cover them.

11ant schrieb:

What do you need it for: a smoker’s balcony in the attic, or fear of “mix-ups”?
You won’t create an exclusive “wow” effect with this trick alone.

Definitely not a smoker’s balcony.
I really like this gable with the walls on the sides, which overall reflects the outline of the house. Especially with the contrast of different materials. Of course, it’s a matter of personal taste.

I also think it does create some “uniqueness.” In the new housing developments here in the north, you rarely see that. To me, they’re all “standard catalog houses,” at least as far as the exterior appearance is concerned.

Thanks so far—it seems my initial assessment is shared, that an additional cost of less than 50k would be sufficient.

Armbrust schrieb:

but rather the gable with the walls on the left and right

But do you actually know what a gable is? In your attachment, I don’t see a “gable with walls on the left and right.” Do you mean a gable with an “extended roof overhang”? Then your examples show a loggia:

All are pitched-roof houses, some with and some without knee walls.
1. Gable-end loggia, seemingly with an open gable inside and glazing
2. Gable-end loggia, seemingly with an open gable inside and glazing
3. Gable-end loggia
4. No roof overhangs at gable or eaves
5. Standard overhang
6. Gable-end loggia


My reply in #2 refers to 1, 2, 3, and 6. Just so there’s no misunderstanding.

By the way, Schwörerhaus has a similar design without the loggia, only with a gable-side roof overhang and side walls. Is that what you mean (Google can find the house under Schwörerhaus Helmstorf)?

Basically, the windows are shaded. Less daylight enters, which should be taken into account.