ᐅ Realistic Cost Estimate: Single-Family Home with Challenging Site Access
Created on: 20 Jan 2023 10:50
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schmeissrein
Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for a while and first of all, a big thank you to everyone who shares their advice here and sometimes also speaks hard truths. I didn’t originally want to create a new thread but intended to form an opinion based on other discussions. However, you convinced me that this building project is too individual for that. So here is our plan:
- Building a new single-family house in the far north of Germany (Schleswig-Flensburg region).
- Plot size is over 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft).
- Total square meters are not so important as long as the layout works.
- Basement is not planned.
What we would like:
- Open-plan kitchen-living area of at least 36m² (388 sq ft).
- Guest room (at least 10m² / 108 sq ft) and small guest bathroom with shower on the ground floor, so that in old age, with disability, or a broken leg, the ground floor can be used independently and possibly serve as a bedroom.
- Utility room / storage room / pantry with heat pump of at least 8m² (86 sq ft) (KfW 40 standard would be great, of course).
- Upper floor with three rooms (1 office, 1 master bedroom, 1 child’s room) each at least 14m² (151 sq ft) and one bathroom. Our dream would be a “walk-in” (what a silly word – aren’t all showers walk-in?) shower to avoid having to clean those limescale-rusty, annoying shower enclosures.
- We could contribute labor for garden landscaping and painting/wallpapering; otherwise, we would prefer a turnkey build.
As for the house style, regionally typical Frisian houses or captain’s houses (with all the “cute” features like small gables, etc.) are in consideration, or also not completely unimaginative “normal” single-family houses. We are not afraid of Bauhaus-style concrete marvels either, but those tend to be more expensive. In terms of fittings, no “gold-plated faucets” and no smart home – but decent and presentable.
The big BUT: the plot is not connected to utilities, and the distance to the street is about 65m (213 ft), of which 50m (164 ft) is a paved driveway and paved parking area that would have to be dug up (across another property). The connection costs and incidental construction costs worry us quite a bit. Does anyone have experience with such a “mammoth connection” for a relatively small building project? What realistic costs should we expect for both?
We would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this project, thank you very much in advance!
I have been following this forum for a while and first of all, a big thank you to everyone who shares their advice here and sometimes also speaks hard truths. I didn’t originally want to create a new thread but intended to form an opinion based on other discussions. However, you convinced me that this building project is too individual for that. So here is our plan:
- Building a new single-family house in the far north of Germany (Schleswig-Flensburg region).
- Plot size is over 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft).
- Total square meters are not so important as long as the layout works.
- Basement is not planned.
What we would like:
- Open-plan kitchen-living area of at least 36m² (388 sq ft).
- Guest room (at least 10m² / 108 sq ft) and small guest bathroom with shower on the ground floor, so that in old age, with disability, or a broken leg, the ground floor can be used independently and possibly serve as a bedroom.
- Utility room / storage room / pantry with heat pump of at least 8m² (86 sq ft) (KfW 40 standard would be great, of course).
- Upper floor with three rooms (1 office, 1 master bedroom, 1 child’s room) each at least 14m² (151 sq ft) and one bathroom. Our dream would be a “walk-in” (what a silly word – aren’t all showers walk-in?) shower to avoid having to clean those limescale-rusty, annoying shower enclosures.
- We could contribute labor for garden landscaping and painting/wallpapering; otherwise, we would prefer a turnkey build.
As for the house style, regionally typical Frisian houses or captain’s houses (with all the “cute” features like small gables, etc.) are in consideration, or also not completely unimaginative “normal” single-family houses. We are not afraid of Bauhaus-style concrete marvels either, but those tend to be more expensive. In terms of fittings, no “gold-plated faucets” and no smart home – but decent and presentable.
The big BUT: the plot is not connected to utilities, and the distance to the street is about 65m (213 ft), of which 50m (164 ft) is a paved driveway and paved parking area that would have to be dug up (across another property). The connection costs and incidental construction costs worry us quite a bit. Does anyone have experience with such a “mammoth connection” for a relatively small building project? What realistic costs should we expect for both?
We would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this project, thank you very much in advance!
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Perlchen21w31 Jan 2023 14:58Hello, we built an urban villa with a smaller attached bungalow.
The utility room is located in the basement and accessible from both parts. Each unit also faces a different direction in the garden. This was important to me because of possible future rental.
We also considered a traditional two-family house but quickly ruled it out. Who would live upstairs, who downstairs, soundproofing, etc. Best regards
The utility room is located in the basement and accessible from both parts. Each unit also faces a different direction in the garden. This was important to me because of possible future rental.
We also considered a traditional two-family house but quickly ruled it out. Who would live upstairs, who downstairs, soundproofing, etc. Best regards
schmeissrein31 Jan 2023 16:1811ant schrieb:
Don't remind us of Claudia-Marlens https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-haus-mit-elw-verbesserungsvorschlaege.44068/ ;-)
... otherwise, @karl.jonas is still planning a courtyard complex. I think, in your case, I would lean toward the more manageable concept. An 11ant never forgets, that’s how the saying goes, right 😀? You walking forum dictionary. Thanks!
schmeissrein schrieb:
There are two options: a large multi-generational house or one large and one small house.Can you explain where this (new?) idea fits into your single-family home planning?
schmeissrein schrieb:
An 11ant never forgets, that's how the saying goes, right 😀? You walking forum dictionary. Thanks!Thanks for what: the mention of @karl.jonas or Claudia-Marlen’s deterrent example?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
schmeissrein31 Jan 2023 20:29@ypg
Several reasons: you can share the utility connection costs, the garden will be shared anyway because the existing house is in the front row (with the same people). You have less lawn to mow and less garden to maintain if you build more 😀 now you just need to arrange the two houses sensibly on the property or design one with an appropriate floor plan. The others need about 100m² (1,076 sq ft), preferably all on one level, we need around 140 to 160m² (1,507 to 1,722 sq ft).
@11ant
Both, also seeing how not to do it is important. It's a pity the thread then just fizzled out.
Several reasons: you can share the utility connection costs, the garden will be shared anyway because the existing house is in the front row (with the same people). You have less lawn to mow and less garden to maintain if you build more 😀 now you just need to arrange the two houses sensibly on the property or design one with an appropriate floor plan. The others need about 100m² (1,076 sq ft), preferably all on one level, we need around 140 to 160m² (1,507 to 1,722 sq ft).
@11ant
Both, also seeing how not to do it is important. It's a pity the thread then just fizzled out.
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WilderSueden31 Jan 2023 22:35Who do you want to bring in for help? And how much space do you have exactly available?
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