ᐅ Questions about underfloor heating – new subfloor/screed/granite tiles
Created on: 8 Jun 2016 10:43
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Schwabe87
Hello,
I have a few questions that mostly relate to heating.
Here is the situation: I inherited part of a house and recently bought the remaining part. Since I recently separated from my partner and currently live with relatives, I’m considering renovating the house and then moving in.
The house was built in 1950 and extended in 2000.
A lot needs to be done: new electrical wiring, new water pipes, new heating system (the oil burner dates from 1990), so it’s a complete renovation!
Right now, I am focusing on the heating system.
The living area is about 130sqm (1400 sq ft).
The entire living space will have underfloor heating. For that, I plan to remove the old screed along with the tiles. Afterward, the underfloor heating will be installed, and granite tiles will be used as the surface. I already have these in my current apartment and don’t want anything else.
Additionally, the very old burner in the basement will be replaced with a new one.
The basement and ground floor belong to me; on the first floor my aunt lives (this apartment also belongs to me). However, her apartment will not be renovated yet, but it is also connected to the burner.
Now my question: roughly how much should I budget for the following, including labor?
About 130sqm (1400 sq ft) of White Pearl granite tiles
About 130sqm (1400 sq ft) of underfloor heating
About 130sqm (1400 sq ft) of liquid screed
A new burner
New heating and water pipes
I will do the demolition myself; I have the tools, but I cannot install the system on my own.
Overall, I have a budget of about 125,000 Euros for the renovation.
It must also be considered that a completely new electrical system will be installed since the old one is a patchwork, and since I am renovating, I want everything done properly.
Best regards
PS:
By the way, I am not interested in subsidies or funding—I simply don’t want to do anything I don’t want to just for the sake of “funding.”
The only thing I’m considering is a photovoltaic system for self-consumption.
I have a few questions that mostly relate to heating.
Here is the situation: I inherited part of a house and recently bought the remaining part. Since I recently separated from my partner and currently live with relatives, I’m considering renovating the house and then moving in.
The house was built in 1950 and extended in 2000.
A lot needs to be done: new electrical wiring, new water pipes, new heating system (the oil burner dates from 1990), so it’s a complete renovation!
Right now, I am focusing on the heating system.
The living area is about 130sqm (1400 sq ft).
The entire living space will have underfloor heating. For that, I plan to remove the old screed along with the tiles. Afterward, the underfloor heating will be installed, and granite tiles will be used as the surface. I already have these in my current apartment and don’t want anything else.
Additionally, the very old burner in the basement will be replaced with a new one.
The basement and ground floor belong to me; on the first floor my aunt lives (this apartment also belongs to me). However, her apartment will not be renovated yet, but it is also connected to the burner.
Now my question: roughly how much should I budget for the following, including labor?
About 130sqm (1400 sq ft) of White Pearl granite tiles
About 130sqm (1400 sq ft) of underfloor heating
About 130sqm (1400 sq ft) of liquid screed
A new burner
New heating and water pipes
I will do the demolition myself; I have the tools, but I cannot install the system on my own.
Overall, I have a budget of about 125,000 Euros for the renovation.
It must also be considered that a completely new electrical system will be installed since the old one is a patchwork, and since I am renovating, I want everything done properly.
Best regards
PS:
By the way, I am not interested in subsidies or funding—I simply don’t want to do anything I don’t want to just for the sake of “funding.”
The only thing I’m considering is a photovoltaic system for self-consumption.
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Schwabe878 Jun 2016 11:20@Jochen104
Thank you for your reply.
I will definitely consult local tradespeople, and possibly an interior designer as well.
However, I find it difficult to properly evaluate the quotes I receive. Is this good or not? Is the tradesperson reliable and professional or not?
As I mentioned, I have clear ideas and already know exactly what I want in my mind. Everything should be straightforward, practical, and functional—nothing extravagant.
Good luck
Thank you for your reply.
I will definitely consult local tradespeople, and possibly an interior designer as well.
However, I find it difficult to properly evaluate the quotes I receive. Is this good or not? Is the tradesperson reliable and professional or not?
As I mentioned, I have clear ideas and already know exactly what I want in my mind. Everything should be straightforward, practical, and functional—nothing extravagant.
Good luck
Schwabe87 schrieb:
However, I find it difficult to properly assess offers. Is this good or not?! Is the contractor reliable / professional or not?! Try asking friends and acquaintances for recommendations. Also, ask the contractors you speak with for recommendations. Contractors often have a good sense of the quality of the tradespeople they work with.
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Schwabe878 Jun 2016 11:32That's a good tip!
Thanks @Jochen104.
Back to the topic of the interior designer. Does this make sense here? The problem is that I have to work a lot and am usually away from 6 a.m. to 8 p.m., so I’m not always available for everyone.
If necessary, I could also take out a loan. But only if there’s no other option. I actually wanted to manage everything without involving a bank.
If it helps, I can also upload floor plans later.
Thanks @Jochen104.
Back to the topic of the interior designer. Does this make sense here? The problem is that I have to work a lot and am usually away from 6 a.m. to 8 p.m., so I’m not always available for everyone.
If necessary, I could also take out a loan. But only if there’s no other option. I actually wanted to manage everything without involving a bank.
If it helps, I can also upload floor plans later.
Schwabe87 schrieb:
Hello
I originally wanted to avoid exterior wall insulation because opinions on the cost-benefit ratio vary widely. I had the same issue, although my situation was probably a bit better. My house dates from the 1980s and already has thermal insulation as well as a ventilated brick veneer facade. Therefore, I focused only on the critical weak points (radiator niches and roller shutter boxes) and insulated them accordingly. Possibly, later on, one could consider blown-in insulation between the masonry and the brick veneer. However, the cost-benefit ratio is still unclear to me, especially since that would only add about 4–5cm (1.5–2 inches). I already have a condensing boiler in the house and underfloor heating in most rooms. Radiators are also installed but rarely used, and they have a separate control circuit. So, I’m monitoring energy consumption over a few years first to get concrete data for calculations.
Your house is from the 1950s, so I assume it likely does not have any facade insulation. For that reason, I might reconsider adding it. In my case, the brick veneer makes renovation more complicated and expensive. But if you have a render (plaster) facade, it might be worth considering.
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Schwabe878 Jun 2016 11:59@FrankH
Thanks for your reply!
Currently, insulation is only installed under the roof, I believe it was done in '05. The insulation consists of this yellow mineral wool.
The exterior facade has no insulation. It is all plastered.
Are there approximate prices for insulation per square meter (sq ft)? These are relatively large areas without much complexity.
Thanks for your reply!
Currently, insulation is only installed under the roof, I believe it was done in '05. The insulation consists of this yellow mineral wool.
The exterior facade has no insulation. It is all plastered.
Are there approximate prices for insulation per square meter (sq ft)? These are relatively large areas without much complexity.
Schwabe87 schrieb:
Are there approximate prices for insulation per square meter? These are all relatively large areas in one piece without much fiddling. I can't answer that question because I haven't dealt with it myself. But I'm sure there are some here who have already done such a renovation.
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