Hello everyone,
After a long search for a painter, we have finally received a quote from a company that is highly rated, seems competent, and also regularly works on new construction projects.
The painter suggests only applying paintable wallpaper to the ceilings and smoothing the walls to level Q3, including joint tape, then priming and painting.
Is this approach common? We had assumed that paintable wallpaper is usually applied everywhere.
Best regards
After a long search for a painter, we have finally received a quote from a company that is highly rated, seems competent, and also regularly works on new construction projects.
The painter suggests only applying paintable wallpaper to the ceilings and smoothing the walls to level Q3, including joint tape, then priming and painting.
Is this approach common? We had assumed that paintable wallpaper is usually applied everywhere.
Best regards
Our general contractor’s offer includes all painting work completely! We plan to reduce some of this at the end, depending on what we decide to do ourselves. According to the construction and scope of work description, the ceiling and walls are partially skimmed to Q2 level. The ceiling will have woodchip wallpaper and be painted white.
Another general contractor recommended using a painting fleece on the ceiling (keeping Q2), as this would make it look smoother. As you mentioned, that might be very difficult to achieve… Therefore, we are currently considering having the ceiling fully skimmed to Q3 level (is that correct?), and then applying a painting fleece on top, since we prefer the look of a smooth ceiling. I could live with Q2 on the walls, which would provide a nice contrast to a smooth ceiling. It’s important for us to know the cost for a Q3 skimmed ceiling with painting fleece, and we will inquire about that soon.
What surprises me is that everyone here and in my social circle says, “Woodchip wallpaper isn’t used anymore nowadays,” yet the ceiling is only skimmed to Q2 in all the construction and scope of work descriptions, leaving me no choice but to go with woodchip wallpaper in the “standard range,” right?
I can’t quite imagine that everyone else is upgrading beyond that?
I think it’s important for us to first see both options—Q2 with woodchip wallpaper and Q3 with painting fleece—in person somewhere. Otherwise, it will be very difficult for us to decide. This question just came up recently, so we are currently working through it.
We were thinking of a smooth ceiling and a fine-grain decorative quartz texture on the walls to create a subtle contrast. To achieve this, I suppose I should avoid leaving the ceiling at Q2, or do I have to work with painting fleece if I keep it at Q2?
Another general contractor recommended using a painting fleece on the ceiling (keeping Q2), as this would make it look smoother. As you mentioned, that might be very difficult to achieve… Therefore, we are currently considering having the ceiling fully skimmed to Q3 level (is that correct?), and then applying a painting fleece on top, since we prefer the look of a smooth ceiling. I could live with Q2 on the walls, which would provide a nice contrast to a smooth ceiling. It’s important for us to know the cost for a Q3 skimmed ceiling with painting fleece, and we will inquire about that soon.
What surprises me is that everyone here and in my social circle says, “Woodchip wallpaper isn’t used anymore nowadays,” yet the ceiling is only skimmed to Q2 in all the construction and scope of work descriptions, leaving me no choice but to go with woodchip wallpaper in the “standard range,” right?
I can’t quite imagine that everyone else is upgrading beyond that?
I think it’s important for us to first see both options—Q2 with woodchip wallpaper and Q3 with painting fleece—in person somewhere. Otherwise, it will be very difficult for us to decide. This question just came up recently, so we are currently working through it.
We were thinking of a smooth ceiling and a fine-grain decorative quartz texture on the walls to create a subtle contrast. To achieve this, I suppose I should avoid leaving the ceiling at Q2, or do I have to work with painting fleece if I keep it at Q2?
At the latest, when you cast indirect lighting onto the walls or ceiling, you’ll regret not having gone one quality level higher.
That’s why we had the ENTIRE HOUSE, which was “worked on” by the main contractor’s painter, redone by our own painter. In other words, all the walls were filled twice, sanded, and painted. Now we’re satisfied! And you can finally turn on the indirect lighting when you have guests over to create a cozy atmosphere.
Q2 on walls is basically just the bare plaster... There are waves and unevenness everywhere...
That’s why we had the ENTIRE HOUSE, which was “worked on” by the main contractor’s painter, redone by our own painter. In other words, all the walls were filled twice, sanded, and painted. Now we’re satisfied! And you can finally turn on the indirect lighting when you have guests over to create a cozy atmosphere.
Q2 on walls is basically just the bare plaster... There are waves and unevenness everywhere...
Golfi90 schrieb:
At the latest, when you use indirect lighting on the walls or ceiling, you’ll regret not having chosen the next higher drywall finishing level.
That’s why we had the entire house, which was “treated” by the general contractor’s painter, reworked by our own painter. In other words, all the walls were double skim coated, sanded, and painted. Now we’re satisfied! And at last, we can turn on the indirect lighting for guests to create a cozy atmosphere.
Q2 on the walls is basically just the bare plaster... There are waves and unevenness everywhere. What is the approximate extra cost for this additional treatment? Practically upgrading from Q2 to Q3? Roughly, what are the added costs per square meter? I have no idea about pricing at all...
Our decision has now been made:
We will have everything (walls/ceilings) finished to Q3 standard with plastering and sanding, followed by embedding a plaster fleece.
The cost for this (600 sqm (6,458 sq ft)) is €16,300.
We will do the priming and painting ourselves, bringing the total to about €17,500.
If the company had done everything, all-inclusive, it would have been €22,500.
We will have everything (walls/ceilings) finished to Q3 standard with plastering and sanding, followed by embedding a plaster fleece.
The cost for this (600 sqm (6,458 sq ft)) is €16,300.
We will do the priming and painting ourselves, bringing the total to about €17,500.
If the company had done everything, all-inclusive, it would have been €22,500.
For rooms measuring around 140m² (1,500 sq ft), we had labor costs of approximately €2,400 (22€ per hour, often two workers).
Material costs were about €650 to €750, including several buckets of filler, multiple cans of paint, primer, acrylic sealant, plastic sheeting, tape, and so on.
However, the work was very well done, in my opinion! And I’m quite picky...
The guys even used LED floodlights to cast grazing light on the walls from different angles and then manually sanded some areas afterwards.
If you know your painter’s hourly rate, you might be able to estimate the cost yourself.
Material costs were about €650 to €750, including several buckets of filler, multiple cans of paint, primer, acrylic sealant, plastic sheeting, tape, and so on.
However, the work was very well done, in my opinion! And I’m quite picky...
The guys even used LED floodlights to cast grazing light on the walls from different angles and then manually sanded some areas afterwards.
If you know your painter’s hourly rate, you might be able to estimate the cost yourself.
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