ᐅ Protection sleeve for underfloor heating pipes missing in the area of movement joints
Created on: 27 Feb 2020 17:39
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lesmue79
In the course of dealing with the issue of the movement joints with my floor installer, I have now identified a defect (in my opinion).
In the area of the movement joints in the dining and kitchen areas (L-shaped room), it appears that the protective conduit around the connection and pipe of the underfloor heating was forgotten. According to the underfloor heating manufacturer and probably several standards, the underfloor heating pipes crossing the movement joints should be fitted with a 30cm (12 inch) protective conduit.
I have already had this issue recorded in the defect report as a precaution and requested feedback on it.
Now I’m wondering how serious this issue is or could become.
I hardly believe the screed installer will replace the screed to add a protective conduit around the pipes. I think it’s more likely that an extension of the warranty will need to be discussed (my preferred option), or financial compensation (which the general contractor will probably prefer, perhaps offering around $500). But how should this be assessed? Or should I already consider hiring an expert or appraiser?
In the area of the movement joints in the dining and kitchen areas (L-shaped room), it appears that the protective conduit around the connection and pipe of the underfloor heating was forgotten. According to the underfloor heating manufacturer and probably several standards, the underfloor heating pipes crossing the movement joints should be fitted with a 30cm (12 inch) protective conduit.
I have already had this issue recorded in the defect report as a precaution and requested feedback on it.
Now I’m wondering how serious this issue is or could become.
I hardly believe the screed installer will replace the screed to add a protective conduit around the pipes. I think it’s more likely that an extension of the warranty will need to be discussed (my preferred option), or financial compensation (which the general contractor will probably prefer, perhaps offering around $500). But how should this be assessed? Or should I already consider hiring an expert or appraiser?
Hello
In about 30 years, I have dealt with various water damages but have never encountered one caused by missing protective sleeves in underfloor heating.
I will ask two friends who specialize in leak detection about how often such damages occur.
When breaking up and patching the screed, I actually see a much greater risk of damage.
I also don’t consider the heating engineer to be at fault in this case. Without a joint layout for the screed, the only joints they will recognize are the door gaps.
Olli
In about 30 years, I have dealt with various water damages but have never encountered one caused by missing protective sleeves in underfloor heating.
I will ask two friends who specialize in leak detection about how often such damages occur.
When breaking up and patching the screed, I actually see a much greater risk of damage.
I also don’t consider the heating engineer to be at fault in this case. Without a joint layout for the screed, the only joints they will recognize are the door gaps.
Olli
wrobel schrieb:
Without a joint plan for the screed, it only sees the doors as joints.That’s mostly the case at my place too! It’s really disappointing that you can’t rely on proper workmanship even with just two trades and minor items. It’s basically no different from doing this here.
One small tip for those of you checking your underfloor heating: if you have a separate heating circuit with a room thermostat in the hallway, and the supply lines for rooms like the bedroom, bathroom, children’s room, etc., also run through the hallway, make sure to check whether these pipes are insulated or at least enclosed in a protective sleeve as a form of basic insulation.
Vicky Pedia28 Feb 2020 18:34wrobel schrieb:
I don’t see the heating engineer as at fault either. Without a joint layout plan for the screed, they would only recognize the doors as joints. Actually, yes! For them, that’s routine. As a professional, they should have asked. And with a 30cm (12 inches) protective conduit at the door, it would have worked. Clearly, cutting the screed and exposing it is the problem. The question is whether a third party remains unaffected just because you don’t know anyone who has suffered damage. But I don’t want to cause extra unrest either. It’s certainly a matter of weighing the options.
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