Hello everyone,
since I am not an expert in this field and want to avoid making mistakes, I would like to know your opinion.
We have purchased a newly built house from a developer, and currently the electrician is working on the property. A high-voltage connection is planned for the garage. However, an electric or hybrid car is not planned within the next 1-2 years. Does it make sense to have a wall box installed right away because of the current incentives? At least that is what the electrician suggested.
Or is just running the cable enough for now (is there any funding for that)? How would you proceed?
Thanks for your advice.
since I am not an expert in this field and want to avoid making mistakes, I would like to know your opinion.
We have purchased a newly built house from a developer, and currently the electrician is working on the property. A high-voltage connection is planned for the garage. However, an electric or hybrid car is not planned within the next 1-2 years. Does it make sense to have a wall box installed right away because of the current incentives? At least that is what the electrician suggested.
Or is just running the cable enough for now (is there any funding for that)? How would you proceed?
Thanks for your advice.
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nordanney27 Nov 2020 09:00Andre77 schrieb:
Not the very expensive ones from wallbox manufacturers, but more like a DIY solution. Something you could get from a metalworker. Nothing fancy, just a “column” with a plate to mount the wallbox on. Then somehow fixing it into the ground. (How?) Does anyone have an idea what something like this costs (the “column” part)? Either go to a metalworker or order online directly (see example) and secure it on a concrete foundation. It will definitely not be cheaper from the metalworker, probably more expensive.
I just spoke with a colleague who wants to have two wallboxes installed at his existing property. Here’s his plan:
2 x e-go homefix units, each costing about 650 euros.
Total: 1,300 euros.
He’s applying for a 900 euro subsidy for each unit.
Total subsidies: 1,800 euros.
This means he only needs to find an electrician who will install both for a total of 500 euros.
Since the costs don’t increase linearly with each additional wallbox, the chances of breaking even are much better compared to trying to get a single wallbox installed for 250 euros.
Is there any flaw in this reasoning?
2 x e-go homefix units, each costing about 650 euros.
Total: 1,300 euros.
He’s applying for a 900 euro subsidy for each unit.
Total subsidies: 1,800 euros.
This means he only needs to find an electrician who will install both for a total of 500 euros.
Since the costs don’t increase linearly with each additional wallbox, the chances of breaking even are much better compared to trying to get a single wallbox installed for 250 euros.
Is there any flaw in this reasoning?
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nordanney2 Dec 2020 14:08moHouse schrieb:
Is there a flaw in the reasoning anywhere?Yes, the connection will definitely be significantly more expensive. Just the technology in the fuse box (Type B RCD, fuse, possibly combined arrester due to the "older building") as well as the wiring work. Costs can quickly reach four figures, which is normal.nordanney schrieb:
For what? Most devices already have meters compliant with legal metrology regulations built in.Golfi90 schrieb:
This is stated in the FAQ of our grid operator. But that probably only becomes relevant if you want to sign up for a second, cheaper tariff specifically for e-mobility.Dear all,
I have currently arrived at this exact topic but still don’t fully understand it.
1. It is about applying for the utility connections and the preparation of the meter cabinet. In our case, the electricity connection is handled by Westnetz (NRW). As already mentioned in this thread, they also offer free preparation for e-mobility. It has been pointed out that the downside is the dependency on Westnetz and possible outages at very inconvenient times. In other words, charging would practically only be possible at night. At the same time, Westnetz says: yes, we prepare everything for free, and the customer basically still has the right to choose any other provider. So where is the catch here? What would Westnetz gain in the latter case?
2. Just yesterday, I informed the general contractor that we don’t need an additional meter and therefore don’t need to reserve extra space in the meter cabinet. Today, Westnetz tells me that I do need a second meter if I want to use e-mobility/ a wallbox later. Does that mean I have to plan a larger meter cabinet with extra meter space? Or are there any other options to avoid this?
Can anyone help me understand what I absolutely must prepare at this point?
Many thanks in advance!
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knalltüte26 Feb 2021 13:39netuser schrieb:
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Today I learned from Westnetz that I do need a second meter if I want to use e-mobility/wallbox at a later date.
Does this mean I have to provide a larger meter cabinet with extra space for an additional meter?
Or are there other options to avoid this?... I would recommend having at least one additional meter slot to separate the billing for the wallbox (a small electronic meter).
Imagine if you get an electric company car that you also use privately—you could then bill the electricity usage separately. Expanding the cabinet later is, in my opinion, much more expensive than choosing a slightly larger one upfront.
netuser schrieb:
... Westnetz (NRW). As mentioned earlier in this thread, they also offer free preparation for e-mobility.
It has already been pointed out that the major downside is the dependence on Westnetz and their power cuts at very inconvenient times. Meaning charging would practically only be possible at night.
... They usually only cut off power during overload, which generally should not happen. Unless in 10 years all residents nearby and around you are also using BEVs (battery electric vehicles).
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