ᐅ Procedure for Building a New Single-Family Home on an Existing Plot of Land
Created on: 18 Nov 2022 07:55
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Dachshund90
Hello everyone,
I know no one has a crystal ball here, but I would still like to hear your opinions:
We have just purchased a plot of land in Hesse, currently live cheaply, and have no urgent time pressure to build (although sooner is always better), except for the 5-year building obligation required by the municipality, which, however, can be extended by 1-2 years for justified reasons. We have slowly started planning and would like to possibly have the completed plans along with the building permit for our new single-family home ready to go, so we can react relatively quickly.
My assessment is that construction prices and interest rates will change little in 2023, even if they might stabilize at a high level. How 2024 or 2025 will look, of course, no one knows. But what is your feeling:
1. Rush the planning and possibly take advantage of a small "interest dip" in 2023 for financing and start with the belief that neither interest rates nor prices will significantly fall in the medium term, and waiting is just lost time.
2. Plan completely calmly, continue to build up equity, and assume that conditions for a new build may improve by the end of 2024 or possibly 2025.
If things become more concrete soon, I would be happy to provide more information for planning and share your feedback.
I welcome any questions and opinions 🙂
Best regards
I know no one has a crystal ball here, but I would still like to hear your opinions:
We have just purchased a plot of land in Hesse, currently live cheaply, and have no urgent time pressure to build (although sooner is always better), except for the 5-year building obligation required by the municipality, which, however, can be extended by 1-2 years for justified reasons. We have slowly started planning and would like to possibly have the completed plans along with the building permit for our new single-family home ready to go, so we can react relatively quickly.
My assessment is that construction prices and interest rates will change little in 2023, even if they might stabilize at a high level. How 2024 or 2025 will look, of course, no one knows. But what is your feeling:
1. Rush the planning and possibly take advantage of a small "interest dip" in 2023 for financing and start with the belief that neither interest rates nor prices will significantly fall in the medium term, and waiting is just lost time.
2. Plan completely calmly, continue to build up equity, and assume that conditions for a new build may improve by the end of 2024 or possibly 2025.
If things become more concrete soon, I would be happy to provide more information for planning and share your feedback.
I welcome any questions and opinions 🙂
Best regards
Dachshund90 schrieb:
That means I have set the reference point in the back left corner (as seen from the street). This is unfortunate for your planning approach: water never flows uphill, and your height reference point is likely to be based more on the street level than on the lowest part of the property.
Dachshund90 schrieb:
It would be possible to access the garden directly from the basement on ground level, but the main floor is a bit high for a nice garden entrance. I recommend that you do not refer to the street-level floor as the "ground floor," and regarding the valley garden issue, try searching the forum for the keyword SupaCriz.
Dachshund90 schrieb:
What do you think about earthworks and costs? Would we actually get a basement "somewhat cheaper" here, since earthworks would be necessary even for a house without a basement? I would put it less optimistically, but yes: the earthworks involved in placing a house on this plot will require only minimal extra effort from the excavator to also create a proper basement pit on the straightforward route. ;-)
kbt09 schrieb:
Unfortunately, post 1 does not include a comprehensive sketch where one could quickly check this. I’m not going to read the entire thread again. Even more unfortunate is that, to date, there is no useful visual reference from the participants: no aerial photo, no cadastral map, no zoning plan (please provide meaningful, not just cropped excerpts!). According to the sketch in post #36, the property borders on reserved land for future development at the bottom of the plan, meaning a different land use category. This calls into question the depicted building envelope boundary (similar to perimeter block development).
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Dachshund9020 Jan 2023 09:13Good morning,
Understood. I didn’t want to use “negative meters” to indicate heights, but I think it’s clear how the elevations run.
Thanks for pointing me to the other topic; there are definitely parallels. I suspect our slope is a bit gentler, which should hopefully make access to the garden from the living area easier. However, I find the ideas quite good.
Sure, it’s both effort either way. But this supports the architects’ view that a basement makes sense here at least :-)
I find it difficult to publish these documents here as they do not “belong” to me. I think the important information is conveyed by the sketch.
In the planning permission, something is of course also planned for the land designated for future development. The building envelope extends as a long, 18cm (7 inches) wide zone completely from the developed neighboring plot into the land designated for future development. The only limiting specification from the planning permission is the maximum building height of 8.0m (26 feet).
11ant schrieb:
This is unfavorable for your planning approach: water never flows uphill, and your reference point for elevation will probably be based on the street rather than the valley floor of the property.
Understood. I didn’t want to use “negative meters” to indicate heights, but I think it’s clear how the elevations run.
Thanks for pointing me to the other topic; there are definitely parallels. I suspect our slope is a bit gentler, which should hopefully make access to the garden from the living area easier. However, I find the ideas quite good.
11ant schrieb:
I would phrase it less positively, but yes: the earthworks related to placing a house on this plot will require only minimal adjustments with the excavator bucket to also carve out a nice basement pit on the short service route ;-)
Sure, it’s both effort either way. But this supports the architects’ view that a basement makes sense here at least :-)
11ant schrieb:
Unfortunately, there is still no useful geospatial context from the participants so far: no aerial image, no cadastral map, no planning permission (please each sufficiently detailed, not just a small cropped section!). According to the sketch in post #36, the plot borders at the bottom on land designated for future development, so a different “land use.” This calls into question the building envelope boundary shown (similar to block perimeter development).
I find it difficult to publish these documents here as they do not “belong” to me. I think the important information is conveyed by the sketch.
In the planning permission, something is of course also planned for the land designated for future development. The building envelope extends as a long, 18cm (7 inches) wide zone completely from the developed neighboring plot into the land designated for future development. The only limiting specification from the planning permission is the maximum building height of 8.0m (26 feet).
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hanghaus202320 Jan 2023 09:39Is it really true that the land is much flatter in the east than in the west? Please share some pictures of the property. Your sketch is also not exactly to scale.
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Dachshund9020 Jan 2023 09:53Yes, the sketch is very rough, and it was initially only meant to give a general impression of the slope in this area. The ground slopes slightly more gently towards the east corner, which is shown too dramatically in the sketch.
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hanghaus202320 Jan 2023 10:56If the zoning plan is available online (which I assume), you should be able to extract parts of it. I find it hard to believe that only one specification is regulated in the zoning plan.
You surely have a site plan for the property; at least there should be one in the contract with the notary.
The geoportal regularly provides elevation data as well.
If an architect is already involved, there should also be a survey plan with ground levels. You should at least show that.
You already own the property, so why can’t you provide more detailed information?
In my opinion, a basement and ground floor layout could be a solution here rather than a full cellar. But unfortunately, it’s impossible to judge with so little input.
The terrain is twice as steep on the first half if your contour lines are correct.
You surely have a site plan for the property; at least there should be one in the contract with the notary.
The geoportal regularly provides elevation data as well.
If an architect is already involved, there should also be a survey plan with ground levels. You should at least show that.
You already own the property, so why can’t you provide more detailed information?
In my opinion, a basement and ground floor layout could be a solution here rather than a full cellar. But unfortunately, it’s impossible to judge with so little input.
The terrain is twice as steep on the first half if your contour lines are correct.
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hanghaus202320 Jan 2023 10:58Dachshund90 schrieb:
Yes, the sketch is very rough and was initially meant only for a general assessment of this height profile. It slopes slightly flatter towards the east corner, which is shown too dramatically in the sketch. Then please give me the opportunity to create a more precise version.
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