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Wilma66-115 May 2013 10:30Good day
We have been living in a new condominium for six months. It was traditionally built with concrete ceilings, shuttered masonry with external insulation.
We wonder if it is normal to hear the upstairs neighbors walking around, water running, and the washing machine vibrating, etc. Shouldn’t this be avoidable in a building from 2012 with today’s standards?
According to the plans, the construction is as follows: 24 cm (9.5 inches) concrete ceiling, 4 cm (1.5 inches) insulation (of which 2 cm (0.75 inches) is impact sound insulation), 7 cm (2.75 inches) anhydrite screed, and finished with tiles or parquet.
The plans also show that a “Swedish cut” was made everywhere at ceiling/wall junctions, and the walls rest on BASYDIL LDS sound insulation supports.
We are now almost ready to carry out a noise measurement because the general contractor and the architect deny any issues. They claim it was built according to standard 181.
Can anyone share similar experiences or possibly recommend an acoustician in the Solothurn area?
Thank you very much
We have been living in a new condominium for six months. It was traditionally built with concrete ceilings, shuttered masonry with external insulation.
We wonder if it is normal to hear the upstairs neighbors walking around, water running, and the washing machine vibrating, etc. Shouldn’t this be avoidable in a building from 2012 with today’s standards?
According to the plans, the construction is as follows: 24 cm (9.5 inches) concrete ceiling, 4 cm (1.5 inches) insulation (of which 2 cm (0.75 inches) is impact sound insulation), 7 cm (2.75 inches) anhydrite screed, and finished with tiles or parquet.
The plans also show that a “Swedish cut” was made everywhere at ceiling/wall junctions, and the walls rest on BASYDIL LDS sound insulation supports.
We are now almost ready to carry out a noise measurement because the general contractor and the architect deny any issues. They claim it was built according to standard 181.
Can anyone share similar experiences or possibly recommend an acoustician in the Solothurn area?
Thank you very much
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Angelia-13 Feb 2014 08:08I have no experience with this, but I would also find it annoying if it is that loud. It can’t be right if the architect denies everything like that. 🙁
Have a measurement done, and it will probably show something different, then they will have to fix it again.
Have a measurement done, and it will probably show something different, then they will have to fix it again.
There are already quite affordable devices available that allow you to measure the noise yourself.
Up to a certain level, you have to tolerate it, but I believe the maximum allowed level is 65 dB, which should not be (constantly) exceeded. There are probably legal rulings on this that can show you what actions you can take.
If the responsible parties do not take action on this issue, you will probably have no other choice but to file a complaint.
Up to a certain level, you have to tolerate it, but I believe the maximum allowed level is 65 dB, which should not be (constantly) exceeded. There are probably legal rulings on this that can show you what actions you can take.
If the responsible parties do not take action on this issue, you will probably have no other choice but to file a complaint.
Hi Senni, I wouldn’t recommend the very cheap devices priced around 30 francs, and better ones usually cost a few hundred francs.
It’s better to go with a professional who has the specialist equipment and, more importantly, you’ll immediately get an expert report that you can then use to challenge the architect 🙄
It’s better to go with a professional who has the specialist equipment and, more importantly, you’ll immediately get an expert report that you can then use to challenge the architect 🙄
Since she is not yet sure whether the noise level is acceptable or not, using an inexpensive device would at least be a good starting point.
That way, she will have some initial reference values.
If the measurement then clearly exceeds an allowable limit, it’s certainly best to hire a professional who can also provide an expert report. However, that does cost a lot more.
If the noise is not enough to challenge the architect, she will be stuck with the costs.
I would always opt for the most affordable option first.
Best regards, Gerda
That way, she will have some initial reference values.
If the measurement then clearly exceeds an allowable limit, it’s certainly best to hire a professional who can also provide an expert report. However, that does cost a lot more.
If the noise is not enough to challenge the architect, she will be stuck with the costs.
I would always opt for the most affordable option first.
Best regards, Gerda
Hi Gerda, that’s how people are—everyone has a different approach. I prefer to make firm decisions. What use is an approximate value if it turns out to be too noisy? Then I still have to hire an expert, meaning I pay twice.
And the feeling that it is too noisy seems to be there—because as the saying goes, if you buy cheap, you buy twice, and that’s not without reason 🙂
And the feeling that it is too noisy seems to be there—because as the saying goes, if you buy cheap, you buy twice, and that’s not without reason 🙂
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