Hello friends,
as the thread title suggests, we plan to start building our house in 2016 and will begin planning with the architect in mid to late January.
The plot has already been purchased.
Development plan/restrictions: no development plan
- Plot size: 30m * 32m / 960sqm (31ft * 33ft / 10,333 sqft), access possible from south or west since it is a corner plot, to the east a 10m (33ft) wide buffer strip with meadow behind. To the north, the neighboring plot.
- Slope: none
- Site occupancy index (floor area ratio): 0.3
- Number of floors: 2 full floors, no basement
- Roof shape: "modern" gable roof with 17°-20° pitch (desired)
- Style: modern, white house, anthracite-colored windows with external blinds on the ground floor
- Orientation: ridge east/west
- Other requirements: a cistern of at least 3000L (790 gallons) required due to stormwater regulations
- Number of occupants: currently 2 people (29/27); children planned: 1-2
- Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: spacious open living-dining area on the ground floor with a "separable" kitchen
- Office: office/fitness/guest room
- Overnight guests per year: currently 4, possibly more in the future
- Open architecture: high ground floor with ceiling height of 2.65-2.75m (8.7-9 ft)
- Open kitchen with island: kitchen island desired
- Number of dining seats: 8 people, large dining table
- Fireplace: as a "room divider" between dining and living areas
- Music/home theater wall: "home theater-capable living room," tensioned motorized screen (3.4m (11 ft) wide) + projector, 7.1 Dolby Surround (planned upgrade to Dolby Atmos with ceiling speakers later)
- Balcony/roof terrace: no balconies, terrace on the south side
- Garage/carport: double garage with storage space
House design
Who is responsible for the planning:
- Architect: from January onwards
- DIY with Sweet Home 3D (SH3D)
What is disliked: long hallways, uncertain how long the staircase needs to be with ceiling height of 2.65/2.75m (8.7/9 ft), currently estimated worst case length of 4.6m (15 ft).
Price estimate according to architect/planner: none yet. My estimate: with own work (bathroom/tiles/flooring/paving/painting) about 310,000€
Personal price limit for the house including fixtures: 350,000€
Preferred heating technology: gas boiler with solar system
If you had to give up something, which details/features could you do without?
- Could do without: upper floor can be smaller; kids’ rooms of 17sqm (183 sqft) would be sufficient. I’m not sure which is cheaper: 1) a bay window on the ground floor to connect to the large living-dining area or 2) as in the current sketch.
The double garage could also be a normal garage with a carport.
- Cannot do without: large living room with a minimum 4.2m (14 ft) wide wall opposite the couch. I wanted to place the heating system between the house and garage on the west side.
I would appreciate your feedback.
Many thanks! Greetings from Bavaria
as the thread title suggests, we plan to start building our house in 2016 and will begin planning with the architect in mid to late January.
The plot has already been purchased.
Development plan/restrictions: no development plan
- Plot size: 30m * 32m / 960sqm (31ft * 33ft / 10,333 sqft), access possible from south or west since it is a corner plot, to the east a 10m (33ft) wide buffer strip with meadow behind. To the north, the neighboring plot.
- Slope: none
- Site occupancy index (floor area ratio): 0.3
- Number of floors: 2 full floors, no basement
- Roof shape: "modern" gable roof with 17°-20° pitch (desired)
- Style: modern, white house, anthracite-colored windows with external blinds on the ground floor
- Orientation: ridge east/west
- Other requirements: a cistern of at least 3000L (790 gallons) required due to stormwater regulations
- Number of occupants: currently 2 people (29/27); children planned: 1-2
- Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: spacious open living-dining area on the ground floor with a "separable" kitchen
- Office: office/fitness/guest room
- Overnight guests per year: currently 4, possibly more in the future
- Open architecture: high ground floor with ceiling height of 2.65-2.75m (8.7-9 ft)
- Open kitchen with island: kitchen island desired
- Number of dining seats: 8 people, large dining table
- Fireplace: as a "room divider" between dining and living areas
- Music/home theater wall: "home theater-capable living room," tensioned motorized screen (3.4m (11 ft) wide) + projector, 7.1 Dolby Surround (planned upgrade to Dolby Atmos with ceiling speakers later)
- Balcony/roof terrace: no balconies, terrace on the south side
- Garage/carport: double garage with storage space
House design
Who is responsible for the planning:
- Architect: from January onwards
- DIY with Sweet Home 3D (SH3D)
What is disliked: long hallways, uncertain how long the staircase needs to be with ceiling height of 2.65/2.75m (8.7/9 ft), currently estimated worst case length of 4.6m (15 ft).
Price estimate according to architect/planner: none yet. My estimate: with own work (bathroom/tiles/flooring/paving/painting) about 310,000€
Personal price limit for the house including fixtures: 350,000€
Preferred heating technology: gas boiler with solar system
If you had to give up something, which details/features could you do without?
- Could do without: upper floor can be smaller; kids’ rooms of 17sqm (183 sqft) would be sufficient. I’m not sure which is cheaper: 1) a bay window on the ground floor to connect to the large living-dining area or 2) as in the current sketch.
The double garage could also be a normal garage with a carport.
- Cannot do without: large living room with a minimum 4.2m (14 ft) wide wall opposite the couch. I wanted to place the heating system between the house and garage on the west side.
I would appreciate your feedback.
Many thanks! Greetings from Bavaria
andimann schrieb:
Hello,
A 4.2 m (13.8 ft) multimedia wall? The child in me almost finds that admirable... But in reality, I wouldn’t have any use for it, and it certainly doesn’t improve TV programming—my TV consumption has decreased significantly over the past few years. I could just about fit a 4.2 m (13.8 ft) wall into our living room. I’ve attached our ground floor plan (not completely final yet, but close). Our house layout is basically square, on a plot size of 650 m² (7000 ft²).
You have more flexibility since your plot is bigger. But first, you should consider where driveways will go, the location of the entrance, and the terrace. That will determine a lot automatically.
Best regards,
AndreasMay I ask in which price range your house will be? And how many square meters (square feet) of living space will it have in total?
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nordanney18 Dec 2015 13:56Remove the home office from the ground floor and move it to the upper floor, then you can adjust the living room layout a bit. The rooms upstairs would need to be slightly smaller (which is not a problem, especially with the very large children's rooms).
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Steffen8018 Dec 2015 14:05*Hausbau* schrieb:
So, I’ve now made a version with a bay window and a recessed living-dining area. As a non-expert, I would say this version is more expensive than version 1.0 (due to the bay window, insulation, canopy, etc.), but what do you think? The living room still feels too small to me.
PS: A "home theater" in the living room is much more expensive than one in the basement because the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) is lost here. My quote from a company for a home theater would be over 40,000 just for the equipment.I’m only concerned about the construction costs, not the equipment. The living room already exists… maybe just a bit larger. If I build an additional room—say 20 m² (215 sq ft)—I have additional costs of about 40,000 EUR. If I build an extra basement for this (with a waterproof concrete shell in our case), the extra costs come to about 80,000 EUR. Notice the difference?
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*Hausbau*18 Dec 2015 14:08Baufie schrieb:
May I ask in which price range your house will be? And how many square meters of living space you will have in total? The target is 180 sqm (about 1937 sq ft) with a focus on a large open-plan living and dining area plus a double garage.
I estimate 1500 (1700) €/sqm (approximately 140 (158) USD/sq ft) for the house; for the garage, I estimate 30,000 €.
But I will find out more details later or just let myself be surprised.
@Baufie,
We are building with a general contractor and have about 175 sqm (177 sqm, to be precise) plus a 95 sqm (95 sqm) basement, which brings us to roughly 2000 €/sqm for the entire house including the basement and everything else. This is based just on the living area, so around 350,000€. That includes everything except the hardwood flooring, which will be an additional cost. We are aiming for a "slightly upscale standard," nothing extravagant but also not a bare-bones budget version.
In the final selections, there will be roughly an extra 10,000€ for better front and interior doors.
I would have preferred to keep it a bit cheaper, but all the quotes were in this range; it seems you can’t get much cheaper in Bavaria these days.
With standard cost-cutting, we could have gotten down to about 310,000€, but we didn’t want that.
Best regards,
Andreas
We are building with a general contractor and have about 175 sqm (177 sqm, to be precise) plus a 95 sqm (95 sqm) basement, which brings us to roughly 2000 €/sqm for the entire house including the basement and everything else. This is based just on the living area, so around 350,000€. That includes everything except the hardwood flooring, which will be an additional cost. We are aiming for a "slightly upscale standard," nothing extravagant but also not a bare-bones budget version.
In the final selections, there will be roughly an extra 10,000€ for better front and interior doors.
I would have preferred to keep it a bit cheaper, but all the quotes were in this range; it seems you can’t get much cheaper in Bavaria these days.
With standard cost-cutting, we could have gotten down to about 310,000€, but we didn’t want that.
Best regards,
Andreas
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*Hausbau*18 Dec 2015 14:11Steffen80 schrieb:
I'm only concerned about the construction costs, not the equipment. The living room already exists anyway... maybe just a bit larger. If I build an extra room—let’s say 20 square meters (215 square feet)—I have additional costs of about 40,000 EUR. If I build a separate basement for it (with a waterproof concrete shell only, which is common here), the extra cost is around 80,000 EUR. Notice the difference? You're right... I overlooked that. Check out the GrobiTV channel on YouTube. A home theater enthusiast simply built a small cinema in their garden.
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