Hello friends,
as the thread title suggests, we plan to start building our house in 2016 and will begin planning with the architect in mid to late January.
The plot has already been purchased.
Development plan/restrictions: no development plan
- Plot size: 30m * 32m / 960sqm (31ft * 33ft / 10,333 sqft), access possible from south or west since it is a corner plot, to the east a 10m (33ft) wide buffer strip with meadow behind. To the north, the neighboring plot.
- Slope: none
- Site occupancy index (floor area ratio): 0.3
- Number of floors: 2 full floors, no basement
- Roof shape: "modern" gable roof with 17°-20° pitch (desired)
- Style: modern, white house, anthracite-colored windows with external blinds on the ground floor
- Orientation: ridge east/west
- Other requirements: a cistern of at least 3000L (790 gallons) required due to stormwater regulations
- Number of occupants: currently 2 people (29/27); children planned: 1-2
- Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: spacious open living-dining area on the ground floor with a "separable" kitchen
- Office: office/fitness/guest room
- Overnight guests per year: currently 4, possibly more in the future
- Open architecture: high ground floor with ceiling height of 2.65-2.75m (8.7-9 ft)
- Open kitchen with island: kitchen island desired
- Number of dining seats: 8 people, large dining table
- Fireplace: as a "room divider" between dining and living areas
- Music/home theater wall: "home theater-capable living room," tensioned motorized screen (3.4m (11 ft) wide) + projector, 7.1 Dolby Surround (planned upgrade to Dolby Atmos with ceiling speakers later)
- Balcony/roof terrace: no balconies, terrace on the south side
- Garage/carport: double garage with storage space
House design
Who is responsible for the planning:
- Architect: from January onwards
- DIY with Sweet Home 3D (SH3D)
What is disliked: long hallways, uncertain how long the staircase needs to be with ceiling height of 2.65/2.75m (8.7/9 ft), currently estimated worst case length of 4.6m (15 ft).
Price estimate according to architect/planner: none yet. My estimate: with own work (bathroom/tiles/flooring/paving/painting) about 310,000€
Personal price limit for the house including fixtures: 350,000€
Preferred heating technology: gas boiler with solar system
If you had to give up something, which details/features could you do without?
- Could do without: upper floor can be smaller; kids’ rooms of 17sqm (183 sqft) would be sufficient. I’m not sure which is cheaper: 1) a bay window on the ground floor to connect to the large living-dining area or 2) as in the current sketch.
The double garage could also be a normal garage with a carport.
- Cannot do without: large living room with a minimum 4.2m (14 ft) wide wall opposite the couch. I wanted to place the heating system between the house and garage on the west side.
I would appreciate your feedback.
Many thanks! Greetings from Bavaria
as the thread title suggests, we plan to start building our house in 2016 and will begin planning with the architect in mid to late January.
The plot has already been purchased.
Development plan/restrictions: no development plan
- Plot size: 30m * 32m / 960sqm (31ft * 33ft / 10,333 sqft), access possible from south or west since it is a corner plot, to the east a 10m (33ft) wide buffer strip with meadow behind. To the north, the neighboring plot.
- Slope: none
- Site occupancy index (floor area ratio): 0.3
- Number of floors: 2 full floors, no basement
- Roof shape: "modern" gable roof with 17°-20° pitch (desired)
- Style: modern, white house, anthracite-colored windows with external blinds on the ground floor
- Orientation: ridge east/west
- Other requirements: a cistern of at least 3000L (790 gallons) required due to stormwater regulations
- Number of occupants: currently 2 people (29/27); children planned: 1-2
- Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: spacious open living-dining area on the ground floor with a "separable" kitchen
- Office: office/fitness/guest room
- Overnight guests per year: currently 4, possibly more in the future
- Open architecture: high ground floor with ceiling height of 2.65-2.75m (8.7-9 ft)
- Open kitchen with island: kitchen island desired
- Number of dining seats: 8 people, large dining table
- Fireplace: as a "room divider" between dining and living areas
- Music/home theater wall: "home theater-capable living room," tensioned motorized screen (3.4m (11 ft) wide) + projector, 7.1 Dolby Surround (planned upgrade to Dolby Atmos with ceiling speakers later)
- Balcony/roof terrace: no balconies, terrace on the south side
- Garage/carport: double garage with storage space
House design
Who is responsible for the planning:
- Architect: from January onwards
- DIY with Sweet Home 3D (SH3D)
What is disliked: long hallways, uncertain how long the staircase needs to be with ceiling height of 2.65/2.75m (8.7/9 ft), currently estimated worst case length of 4.6m (15 ft).
Price estimate according to architect/planner: none yet. My estimate: with own work (bathroom/tiles/flooring/paving/painting) about 310,000€
Personal price limit for the house including fixtures: 350,000€
Preferred heating technology: gas boiler with solar system
If you had to give up something, which details/features could you do without?
- Could do without: upper floor can be smaller; kids’ rooms of 17sqm (183 sqft) would be sufficient. I’m not sure which is cheaper: 1) a bay window on the ground floor to connect to the large living-dining area or 2) as in the current sketch.
The double garage could also be a normal garage with a carport.
- Cannot do without: large living room with a minimum 4.2m (14 ft) wide wall opposite the couch. I wanted to place the heating system between the house and garage on the west side.
I would appreciate your feedback.
Many thanks! Greetings from Bavaria
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*Hausbau*20 Feb 2016 09:30Hi ypg, I wanted to place the house on the northwest edge.
To the south, I want enough distance from the street so that when I’m sitting on the terrace, not everyone can see what’s on my plate. To the east, there is a nice view that can’t be blocked. To the north and west, there are houses… the 5m (16 feet) setback to the north is just the minimum distance. I think there would still be space for a rotary clothesline or some wood.
If the driveway is on the south side, I would have to reverse about 20m (65 feet) onto the street every time, and in winter I would have to clear a lot of snow.
I liked the idea of the “courtyard” in front of the garage because the front door is not hidden behind the garage.
What is a BU?
This design is “approved,” although the garage/utility area/entrance comes from him.
I also have other designs from him.
Last year, I visited 70 show homes (Poing near Munich and Linz) and definitely have about 30 catalogs with floor plans lying around at home. As I said, I never claimed the designer had it easy with me.
To the south, I want enough distance from the street so that when I’m sitting on the terrace, not everyone can see what’s on my plate. To the east, there is a nice view that can’t be blocked. To the north and west, there are houses… the 5m (16 feet) setback to the north is just the minimum distance. I think there would still be space for a rotary clothesline or some wood.
If the driveway is on the south side, I would have to reverse about 20m (65 feet) onto the street every time, and in winter I would have to clear a lot of snow.
I liked the idea of the “courtyard” in front of the garage because the front door is not hidden behind the garage.
What is a BU?
This design is “approved,” although the garage/utility area/entrance comes from him.
I also have other designs from him.
Last year, I visited 70 show homes (Poing near Munich and Linz) and definitely have about 30 catalogs with floor plans lying around at home. As I said, I never claimed the designer had it easy with me.
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*Hausbau*20 Feb 2016 10:08Okay.
Nothing is set in stone, and the fact that I am here in the forum asking for feedback should also be taken into account. I never said you should tell me how great everything is for four pages. That doesn’t help me, and I would then unsubscribe.
It would be helpful if you could point out the mistakes and, ideally, suggest alternatives. It doesn’t help me if we now have multiple posts discussing the planner’s qualifications.
The requirements were:
The wishes were:
Nothing is set in stone, and the fact that I am here in the forum asking for feedback should also be taken into account. I never said you should tell me how great everything is for four pages. That doesn’t help me, and I would then unsubscribe.
It would be helpful if you could point out the mistakes and, ideally, suggest alternatives. It doesn’t help me if we now have multiple posts discussing the planner’s qualifications.
The requirements were:
- Kitchen/Dining/Living area with an option for a room divider between kitchen and dining
- Utility room on the ground floor (I know solutions with utility rooms upstairs, but we don’t like those)
- Storage room upstairs
- 2 children’s rooms
- 1 office
- Living room with at least a 3.70-meter (12 feet) wide wall opposite the couch
- Living room that fits my couch (yes, I mean the corner bench )
The wishes were:
- Access from bedroom to dressing room to bathroom
- Utility room with patio door
- WC with shower
- Bathroom with bathtub
- Bedroom facing north/east
- Laundry chute
- Storage room upstairs (possibly for a closet for winter jackets/bed linen/towels, vacuum cleaner)
- Option to build a terrace on the garage (I know, that’s a matter of taste)
Hello Horst,
BU stands for construction company... synonymous with GÜ (general contractor with overall responsibility), GU (general contractor), or BT (property developer). Usually, these are architects or planners employed by the company and may not invest much personal passion into the planning. You’re right: the client is the one most involved with the house, but unfortunately, as non-professionals, we don’t have access to the same knowledge and options as a planner or architect. Your requirements for your desired project are neither complex nor unusual – and your plot should offer more than just a house pushed into a corner. After all, it doesn’t really matter for the terrace whether there are 10 meters (33 feet) or 15 meters (49 feet) of lawn depth in front of it.
However, once you’re living in the house, it becomes more important to have additional retreat areas around the house to avoid the southern sun, or to find a cozier spot on the property. Then you might regret not having left space on a less important side for a fire pit, a third terrace next to a friendly northern neighbor, or a large clothesline/spider. After all, a hedge takes up about a meter (3 feet) of depth.
Best regards, Yvonne
BU stands for construction company... synonymous with GÜ (general contractor with overall responsibility), GU (general contractor), or BT (property developer). Usually, these are architects or planners employed by the company and may not invest much personal passion into the planning. You’re right: the client is the one most involved with the house, but unfortunately, as non-professionals, we don’t have access to the same knowledge and options as a planner or architect. Your requirements for your desired project are neither complex nor unusual – and your plot should offer more than just a house pushed into a corner. After all, it doesn’t really matter for the terrace whether there are 10 meters (33 feet) or 15 meters (49 feet) of lawn depth in front of it.
However, once you’re living in the house, it becomes more important to have additional retreat areas around the house to avoid the southern sun, or to find a cozier spot on the property. Then you might regret not having left space on a less important side for a fire pit, a third terrace next to a friendly northern neighbor, or a large clothesline/spider. After all, a hedge takes up about a meter (3 feet) of depth.
Best regards, Yvonne
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