ᐅ Prefabricated House with Solid Construction – Which Building Company to Choose
Created on: 4 May 2017 17:39
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Hello everyone,
We are planning to purchase a prefabricated house built with solid construction. We do not have a plot of land yet. Our budget, excluding the land, is 200,000 € (about 220,000 USD). We have already looked at several houses online and read many reviews. This has made us more uncertain, since hardly any construction company gets good ratings on the internet. So far, we have found two companies that we really like, but unfortunately they only build in Lower Saxony or Northern Germany. Do you have any recommendations for companies in Rhineland-Palatinate?
Because we have relatives with strong craftsmanship skills, we are planning a so-called shell house to save some money and be able to customize it individually. Here is a rough outline of what we are looking for:
1.5 stories
about 140 m² (1,500 sq ft)
5-6 rooms
no basement
no garage
underfloor heating
ventilation system
We are aware that our budget is not very large, but we absolutely want to avoid poor workmanship. Therefore, we would appreciate any tips that could reduce costs or improve energy efficiency.
What are the must-haves (for example, wall materials, stairs, flooring, etc.)?
What can safely be chosen in the standard version?
We would be very grateful for any advice.
Thank you in advance!
We are planning to purchase a prefabricated house built with solid construction. We do not have a plot of land yet. Our budget, excluding the land, is 200,000 € (about 220,000 USD). We have already looked at several houses online and read many reviews. This has made us more uncertain, since hardly any construction company gets good ratings on the internet. So far, we have found two companies that we really like, but unfortunately they only build in Lower Saxony or Northern Germany. Do you have any recommendations for companies in Rhineland-Palatinate?
Because we have relatives with strong craftsmanship skills, we are planning a so-called shell house to save some money and be able to customize it individually. Here is a rough outline of what we are looking for:
1.5 stories
about 140 m² (1,500 sq ft)
5-6 rooms
no basement
no garage
underfloor heating
ventilation system
We are aware that our budget is not very large, but we absolutely want to avoid poor workmanship. Therefore, we would appreciate any tips that could reduce costs or improve energy efficiency.
What are the must-haves (for example, wall materials, stairs, flooring, etc.)?
What can safely be chosen in the standard version?
We would be very grateful for any advice.
Thank you in advance!
Putting water in the wine, the architect is great. A standard house, nothing fancy, four rooms, 120 sqm (1,292 sq ft), carport, Braas Harzer Pfanne tiles, square windows, bathroom, toilet, heating – here in Schleswig-Holstein an architect is simply too expensive.
They charge too much, have their own interests, for example, wanting to put their signature style into the house, their aesthetics, their fees which are based on the construction costs and shouldn’t be too low, so they prefer something a bit more upscale rather than plain patterned.
The participation in architect tenders leaves much to be desired. Many companies either don’t submit bids or ask for too high a price because they don’t want to deal with construction meetings or with Mr. Hübenbecker’s millimeter-obsessed approach. That’s how it is here. There are offices in the region that can’t find any local tradespeople at affordable prices because they are considered too complicated.
There are, admittedly, some that don’t have this problem because they are a bit closer to the construction scene.
Still, some construction company owners do their own planning, are authorized to submit plans, have a structural engineer who calculates simple standard solutions inexpensively; they don’t want to make money from planning but from building the house. They have partners they work with, everyone knows each other: “I’ll build this part, then you come and do the heating, okay, I’ll take that system, it’s fine and affordable. You give me 21 for the package including solar, the system and piping. For 400, I’ll install two toilets and washbasins for your customer. And a bathtub is still included. You get 30 houses a year from me, great, so let’s do this…”
And then the customer gets an all-inclusive package: a simple house, good price, decent workmanship, working hand in hand, nothing fancy, nothing for House and Country magazine, but affordable. An Opel Astra, basically. And many are perfectly fine with that. Karsten
They charge too much, have their own interests, for example, wanting to put their signature style into the house, their aesthetics, their fees which are based on the construction costs and shouldn’t be too low, so they prefer something a bit more upscale rather than plain patterned.
The participation in architect tenders leaves much to be desired. Many companies either don’t submit bids or ask for too high a price because they don’t want to deal with construction meetings or with Mr. Hübenbecker’s millimeter-obsessed approach. That’s how it is here. There are offices in the region that can’t find any local tradespeople at affordable prices because they are considered too complicated.
There are, admittedly, some that don’t have this problem because they are a bit closer to the construction scene.
Still, some construction company owners do their own planning, are authorized to submit plans, have a structural engineer who calculates simple standard solutions inexpensively; they don’t want to make money from planning but from building the house. They have partners they work with, everyone knows each other: “I’ll build this part, then you come and do the heating, okay, I’ll take that system, it’s fine and affordable. You give me 21 for the package including solar, the system and piping. For 400, I’ll install two toilets and washbasins for your customer. And a bathtub is still included. You get 30 houses a year from me, great, so let’s do this…”
And then the customer gets an all-inclusive package: a simple house, good price, decent workmanship, working hand in hand, nothing fancy, nothing for House and Country magazine, but affordable. An Opel Astra, basically. And many are perfectly fine with that. Karsten
I think this is the right place
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/nach-Einzug-trocknung-beschleunigen.24324/
I’m moving on to another thread after all… thanks for your attention *embarrassed*
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/nach-Einzug-trocknung-beschleunigen.24324/
I’m moving on to another thread after all… thanks for your attention *embarrassed*
Nordlys schrieb:
Water in the wine,For heaven’s sake, no!
TE is not in SH or Lower Saxony, so you can’t view it from your perspective.
I agree with you: if a standard house is being planned, it doesn’t have to be an architect-designed house – you pay more for that than for a ready-made house, which you can adjust in the floor plan.
In my opinion, the key factor here is the amount of personal labor involved. The original poster has many craftsmen who will assist him. With shell houses, it is of course possible to exclude heating and sanitary installations, but usually at a cost that is quite unreasonable. That’s why I suggest working with an architect.
In my area, there is a construction company that offers a modular system. They have their own masons and civil engineers. If desired, they can take care of the rest as well, or just some additional parts, or simply build the shell structure and say goodbye—whatever the customer prefers.
In my area, there is a construction company that offers a modular system. They have their own masons and civil engineers. If desired, they can take care of the rest as well, or just some additional parts, or simply build the shell structure and say goodbye—whatever the customer prefers.
We are working with a construction company that employs its own craftsmen and operates its own excavators, etc. They provide a complete package at a fixed price, and the building is constructed brick by brick.
The company owner is also the architect (advantage: everything comes from one source; disadvantage: the architect may not be fully objective in your interest, which is normally a key role of the architect). You can also hire an independent building inspector for a few thousand (e.g., through a home builders’ protection organization) or try to oversee the construction yourself.
Companies that rely heavily on advertising and offer computer-generated houses on real estate portals or in large catalogs tend, in our opinion, to have basic standard features and become extremely expensive with any custom changes.
Not every construction company operates this way; many actually recommend going to an independent architect. We contacted around 30 to 40 companies; some offered a complete fixed-price package while others declined. It’s a process of trial and error.
The company owner is also the architect (advantage: everything comes from one source; disadvantage: the architect may not be fully objective in your interest, which is normally a key role of the architect). You can also hire an independent building inspector for a few thousand (e.g., through a home builders’ protection organization) or try to oversee the construction yourself.
Companies that rely heavily on advertising and offer computer-generated houses on real estate portals or in large catalogs tend, in our opinion, to have basic standard features and become extremely expensive with any custom changes.
Not every construction company operates this way; many actually recommend going to an independent architect. We contacted around 30 to 40 companies; some offered a complete fixed-price package while others declined. It’s a process of trial and error.
Kaspatoo schrieb:
The boss is also the architect (advantage: everything comes from a single source; disadvantage: the architect may not be fully objective or on your side, which is usually part of the architect’s role).This applies to all architects employed by the house provider, as they are not necessarily acting solely in the client’s interest. On the other hand, looking at it from the opposite perspective: an architect who is also a builder tends to design less complex (i.e. less expensive / less risk-prone) details.
Kaspatoo schrieb:
Experience is the best teacher.Which is why there’s a saying that you don’t build your first house for yourself.
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