Hello everyone,
We have already made good progress with our planning. Now we are facing the challenge of garage design. Our preference is for a garage about 6 meters by 6 meters (20 feet by 20 feet) to 6 meters by 8 meters (20 feet by 26 feet) in size, without an internal partition, with two doors and a side door. We are now wondering what the best approach would be: buying a precast concrete garage or building it ourselves. What are your experiences or recommendations, and what costs should we expect, especially regarding self-construction?
Hopefully, you can share some tips with us. :-)
Best regards,
Frank
We have already made good progress with our planning. Now we are facing the challenge of garage design. Our preference is for a garage about 6 meters by 6 meters (20 feet by 20 feet) to 6 meters by 8 meters (20 feet by 26 feet) in size, without an internal partition, with two doors and a side door. We are now wondering what the best approach would be: buying a precast concrete garage or building it ourselves. What are your experiences or recommendations, and what costs should we expect, especially regarding self-construction?
Hopefully, you can share some tips with us. :-)
Best regards,
Frank
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Doc.Schnaggls28 May 2015 09:32Hello,
as far as I know, metal prefabricated garages also do not have a floor. So when calculating costs, keep in mind that the floor still needs to be built and paid for.
A friend of ours has an (older) metal prefabricated garage – he occasionally has issues with condensation, which then drips from the ceiling all over the garage. I can’t say if this is still the case with modern metal garages...
Regards,
Dirk
as far as I know, metal prefabricated garages also do not have a floor. So when calculating costs, keep in mind that the floor still needs to be built and paid for.
A friend of ours has an (older) metal prefabricated garage – he occasionally has issues with condensation, which then drips from the ceiling all over the garage. I can’t say if this is still the case with modern metal garages...
Regards,
Dirk
We have a metal/steel garage measuring 5.4 x 9 meters (17.7 x 29.5 feet) with a large electric sectional door, one window, and a side door.
The smooth plastered walls make it hardly noticeable from the outside that it is a metal garage.
Thanks to the thin walls, we have more space to accommodate two vehicles within the 5.4 meters (17.7 feet).
The price was just over 12,000 euros, excluding the construction of the ring foundation and floor paving, which was done by our garden landscaper.
The smooth plastered walls make it hardly noticeable from the outside that it is a metal garage.
Thanks to the thin walls, we have more space to accommodate two vehicles within the 5.4 meters (17.7 feet).
The price was just over 12,000 euros, excluding the construction of the ring foundation and floor paving, which was done by our garden landscaper.
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Bieber081528 May 2015 23:10Doc.Schnaggls schrieb:
He occasionally has problems with condensation, which then drips from the ceiling all over the garage. Whether this is still the case with modern metal garages, I cannot say... If you buy properly today, this is generally no longer an issue. Steel prefabricated garages have the most extreme climate conditions (warm in summer, cold in winter). Concrete garages significantly moderate this. If a steel garage is properly ventilated, it is an excellent choice for a car. Other uses tend to be less practical (workshop, overwintering plants, etc.).
Steel garages require additional measures for mounting/fixing shelving systems on the walls (these can be bought ready-made). With concrete garages, you have more flexibility (note: the number of allowed drill holes is surprisingly limited, but practically you can do quite a bit...).
Steel garages can be delivered in sections, making carrying easier to some extent. A concrete garage, especially in difficult locations, requires a (costly) crane.
As mentioned before: a concrete garage comes with the floor included and requires strip foundations. A steel garage is open at the bottom and requires strip foundations plus a separate floor.
If you avoid making the floor overly expensive, a steel garage is likely to be thousands cheaper.
Thanks again for the tips. I’ve now received a quote for a steel prefabricated garage measuring 6x8 meters (20x26 feet) with a side door and a window, plus two sectional doors. I preferred that over one large door. The price including delivery and installation is €10,000. Additionally, a concrete slab foundation including excavation work and materials is quoted at €3,360 (48m² (516 sq ft) x €70).
What do you think about this?
The problem with precast concrete garages is that transportation becomes very expensive once the length exceeds 6 meters (20 feet). That’s what many companies say. It makes sense since even a truck has limited loading space.
What do you think about this?
The problem with precast concrete garages is that transportation becomes very expensive once the length exceeds 6 meters (20 feet). That’s what many companies say. It makes sense since even a truck has limited loading space.
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Doc.Schnaggls29 May 2015 08:25FraJeMa schrieb:
The problem with precast concrete garages is that once they are longer than 6m (20 feet), transport becomes very expensive. At least, that’s what many companies say. It makes sense, since even a truck only has a limited loading area.Hello,
I would like to offer a different perspective based on my own building experience.
The length of a precast concrete garage is rarely the issue – if the elements become too long, the garages are usually divided into segments.
The bigger challenge is when the width exceeds 3m (10 feet) – then transportation costs increase significantly, as an escort vehicle and possibly even police escort may be required.
Best regards,
Dirk
Regarding the gates:
Because our garage is narrow, only the large gate was an option for us.
An advantage is that you can easily ride through between the cars with a Bobby Car, bicycles, etc., without being blocked by the central support pillar.
Our side door opens to the garden/terrace side.
If you want to install electric openers for the gates, choosing the large gate also means you only need one drive unit.
On the topic of transport costs for concrete garages:
I can definitely see that. Double garages are often delivered by a truck with a trailer and, in the best case, can be placed directly from the truck without an additional crane. As far as I know, an extra third garage module is placed as an extension behind the oversized garage.
This would likely require an additional truck and probably a crane as well.
Regarding moisture in steel garages:
At least with the manufacturers I have dealt with, all garages had condensation protection on the ceiling.
Steel garages actually have an advantage over concrete garages when it comes to ventilation. Also, if you pave the floor, moisture from vehicles can even drain downward into the ground.
I noticed that when I have anything standing or lying on the paving stones inside the garage, the stones underneath get damp.
So it’s not ideal to store moisture-sensitive items on the floor. Additionally, some moisture can enter the garage through the paving stones during rain (this might be preventable with a silicone sealant).
On the subject of fastenings:
Manufacturers usually have their own systems tailored to each garage type. I am currently considering how best to install a small wall in front of the metal wall to hang garden tools and an electrical distribution box without having to use the manufacturer’s (often quite costly) system. You can’t just drill a hole in the wall. Anyone planning to hang something from the ceiling should check this with the garage provider beforehand.
Because our garage is narrow, only the large gate was an option for us.
An advantage is that you can easily ride through between the cars with a Bobby Car, bicycles, etc., without being blocked by the central support pillar.
Our side door opens to the garden/terrace side.
If you want to install electric openers for the gates, choosing the large gate also means you only need one drive unit.
On the topic of transport costs for concrete garages:
I can definitely see that. Double garages are often delivered by a truck with a trailer and, in the best case, can be placed directly from the truck without an additional crane. As far as I know, an extra third garage module is placed as an extension behind the oversized garage.
This would likely require an additional truck and probably a crane as well.
Regarding moisture in steel garages:
At least with the manufacturers I have dealt with, all garages had condensation protection on the ceiling.
Steel garages actually have an advantage over concrete garages when it comes to ventilation. Also, if you pave the floor, moisture from vehicles can even drain downward into the ground.
I noticed that when I have anything standing or lying on the paving stones inside the garage, the stones underneath get damp.
So it’s not ideal to store moisture-sensitive items on the floor. Additionally, some moisture can enter the garage through the paving stones during rain (this might be preventable with a silicone sealant).
On the subject of fastenings:
Manufacturers usually have their own systems tailored to each garage type. I am currently considering how best to install a small wall in front of the metal wall to hang garden tools and an electrical distribution box without having to use the manufacturer’s (often quite costly) system. You can’t just drill a hole in the wall. Anyone planning to hang something from the ceiling should check this with the garage provider beforehand.
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