ᐅ Building a Pool at the Same Time as the House - Your Opinions?
Created on: 16 May 2021 10:53
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majuhenema
Dear community,
Since December 2020, we have been planning our house and reached an agreement with a provider in April. See:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/erste-grundrissplanung-auf-karopapier-hang-keller-2-geschosse.37567/
During the planning, the topic of a pool was always in the back of our minds and was discussed several times. Our initial feeling was "let’s build it right away," which over weeks and months shifted to "preparation now and realization later" for the time being. Now our direction is changing again, and we are researching construction and maintenance costs. Since it is difficult to assess the reliability of the various sources, or they do not align with our idea, we would very much appreciate feedback from the community here.
We are looking at a pool size of 8 x 4 meters (26 x 13 feet) without a counter-current system but with an electric cover. We are not entirely sure about pool heating. The technical room is located in the basement near where the pool will be installed.
We keep telling ourselves that building the pool now would be much cheaper because pool and house work could run in parallel, creating synergy effects (economic and legal aspects included 😉 ) regarding earthworks, foundation, crane use, and technology.
Our questions are:
1. In general: What do you consider to be the best type of pool for our project? We know the pros and cons of various types but cannot come to a final conclusion.
2. How much would you estimate the pure construction costs of your “preferred option” under the above conditions?
3. How large do you estimate the price difference between “building now” and “doing it in xx years” to be?
Thank you. 🙂
Since December 2020, we have been planning our house and reached an agreement with a provider in April. See:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/erste-grundrissplanung-auf-karopapier-hang-keller-2-geschosse.37567/
During the planning, the topic of a pool was always in the back of our minds and was discussed several times. Our initial feeling was "let’s build it right away," which over weeks and months shifted to "preparation now and realization later" for the time being. Now our direction is changing again, and we are researching construction and maintenance costs. Since it is difficult to assess the reliability of the various sources, or they do not align with our idea, we would very much appreciate feedback from the community here.
We are looking at a pool size of 8 x 4 meters (26 x 13 feet) without a counter-current system but with an electric cover. We are not entirely sure about pool heating. The technical room is located in the basement near where the pool will be installed.
We keep telling ourselves that building the pool now would be much cheaper because pool and house work could run in parallel, creating synergy effects (economic and legal aspects included 😉 ) regarding earthworks, foundation, crane use, and technology.
Our questions are:
1. In general: What do you consider to be the best type of pool for our project? We know the pros and cons of various types but cannot come to a final conclusion.
2. How much would you estimate the pure construction costs of your “preferred option” under the above conditions?
3. How large do you estimate the price difference between “building now” and “doing it in xx years” to be?
Thank you. 🙂
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majuhenema18 May 2021 19:06JuliaMünchen schrieb:
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Where are you building, and what are pool prices like in your area?Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. That is very helpful. Munich is quite a challenging area in every respect.
Our plan was also to speak with the construction company (they are currently working on the preliminary planning) and at the same time start gathering initial quotes. We are from Lower Franconia.
Grolsch30 schrieb:
Isn’t a swim spa worth considering?No, it’s not an option for us.
A friend of mine now wants to build a pool after completing his new house. Move-in was October 2020 🙄
If he had decided a few months earlier, it would have been much easier (landscaping, heating, electrical, water supply, wastewater…).
He wants to do it “right” from the start, meaning automatic measurement and control technology, automatic backwash, etc.
Several pool builders were contacted. We also did some calculations ourselves regarding the technology and other details.
Pool size 6x3x1.5 meters (20x10x5 feet), stainless steel flat skimmer, massage jets, liner from Alkorplan, electric polycarbonate/solar cover, heat pump…
All-in cost about €60,000.
Also located in southern Germany.
@Bookstar already mentioned 40–60k early on. Depending on region and features, that is realistic.
Don’t even consider stainless steel pools—they are significantly more expensive.
We built our pool together with the house. It was no problem, just more planning effort. There are many advantages.
If he had decided a few months earlier, it would have been much easier (landscaping, heating, electrical, water supply, wastewater…).
He wants to do it “right” from the start, meaning automatic measurement and control technology, automatic backwash, etc.
Several pool builders were contacted. We also did some calculations ourselves regarding the technology and other details.
Pool size 6x3x1.5 meters (20x10x5 feet), stainless steel flat skimmer, massage jets, liner from Alkorplan, electric polycarbonate/solar cover, heat pump…
All-in cost about €60,000.
Also located in southern Germany.
@Bookstar already mentioned 40–60k early on. Depending on region and features, that is realistic.
Don’t even consider stainless steel pools—they are significantly more expensive.
We built our pool together with the house. It was no problem, just more planning effort. There are many advantages.
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majuhenema20 May 2021 14:03Thanks @rick2018 for your feedback.
Based on our research so far, we consider the GRP (glass-reinforced plastic) option the smartest choice for our project. However, no discussions have taken place yet.
Intuitively, I see a limit of 40,000 euros without compromises. Beyond that, I would probably decline.
Based on our research so far, we consider the GRP (glass-reinforced plastic) option the smartest choice for our project. However, no discussions have taken place yet.
Intuitively, I see a limit of 40,000 euros without compromises. Beyond that, I would probably decline.
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Costruttrice23 May 2021 11:42We are planning the pool as part of the house construction. When the excavation for the house is done, it will be done at the same time, as well as the foundation slab. After consulting several pool builders, we decided on a fiberglass pool from Riviera. It measures 8.75 x 3.7 meters (29 x 12 feet) and includes an integrated electric roller shutter with polycarbonate solar panels. The cost, including pool equipment, heat pump, dosing system, and installation with backfilling—but excluding excavation and supply lines—is about €82,000.
The delivery time is approximately 35 weeks.
The delivery time is approximately 35 weeks.
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majuhenema24 May 2021 08:49Costruttrice schrieb:
We are planning the pool together with the house construction. When the excavation for the house is done, they do it all at once, the same applies to the foundation slab. After consulting several pool builders, we decided on a fiberglass shell from Riviera. 8.75 x 3.7 m (29 x 12 ft), integrated electric roller shutter with polycarbonate solar cover. Costs include pool technology, heat pump, dosing system.So far, everything sounded great.
Costruttrice schrieb:
Costs including pool technology, heat pump, dosing system, and installation with backfilling, but excluding excavation and supply lines, are about €82,000. Delivery time is around 35 weeks.From this point on, not so much. 🙂
I wonder if it even makes sense to get quotes from companies.
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