ᐅ Building a Pool at the Same Time as the House - Your Opinions?

Nemesis schrieb:

What exactly do you need?

I will provide the photo later.
Purchasing the heat pump itself isn’t very expensive, but depending on usage, the operating costs can be significant. The desired cover will probably cost about the same as the pool itself 😉

Well, the costs mainly involve excavation (which is quite expensive here…), a properly insulated ground slab, exterior insulation (because of heating…), and the pool equipment including the heat pump. I will build the deck myself using existing aluminum profiles and additional wood or WPC to be purchased. For that, I’m expecting around 1000–1500€ (approximately 1100–1650 USD). There are also costs for a few steel profiles in omega (Ω) and U-shapes to hold the existing heavy-duty casters (I already have the casters 🙂 ) and some welding work. If I’m lucky, it will be cheaper, if not, that’s fine too. The cover could become even more expensive if it includes a sauna, which is an option for me (if everything works out as I currently imagine…).

Nemesis schrieb:

We experienced this directly, although the excavation was done during the interior work on the house, so towards the end. The concrete slab was also done on-site, with the concrete delivered using a belt conveyor.
Can you also handle on-site concrete placement?

Thank you for your assessment. On-site concrete placement will be rather difficult.

Nemesis schrieb:

Regarding the costs, you have already heard a rough figure. However, I find it quite high depending on the type of pool desired and the landscaping work involved. Others might give you similar estimates, maybe we are an exception, I don’t know. But so you have an idea:
We spent about 10,000 on our prefabricated pool with stairs, sized 7 x 3m (23 x 10 feet), including the technical equipment (which is not in a shaft but in the garden shed next door), as well as the mentioned work, and we are happy with it.

7 x 3m (23 x 10 feet) looks very comfortable to us. Concerning the budget, we are planning/estimating roughly 25,000 to 40,000 euros. Whether this will work out, or whether our general contractor will be enthusiastic about it, remains to be seen.

i_b_n_a_n schrieb:

Well, the costs mainly involve excavation (very expensive here…), a properly insulated slab foundation, the exterior insulation (because of heating…), and the pool technology including the heat pump, etc. I’m building the deck myself using existing aluminum profiles and additional wood or WPC to be purchased. I’m estimating around only 1000–1500€ (about 1100–1650 USD). Costs for a few steel profiles in Ω and U shapes to support the existing heavy-duty rollers (which I already have 🙂 ), plus some welding work… If I’m lucky, it will be a bit cheaper, otherwise that’s okay too. The cover might become even more expensive if it includes a sauna, which is an option for me (if everything goes as I imagine it now…).

You see, projects are that individual. For most people, it’s probably easier to handle the excavation and slab foundation themselves or organize it than to build and weld such a “massive” cover on their own… 😉 Such a cover can easily cost around 10,000€ (about 11,000 USD) if bought.

A friend did the excavation with an excavator, which was finished within 1–2 hours. The slab foundation is not complicated, and neither is the insulation. Most of the energy is lost upwards anyway; the cover is the biggest game changer here, and with your planning, you are already ahead of many…

majuhenema schrieb:

Thanks for your assessment. EL will probably be difficult.

7x3m (23x10 feet) seems very comfortable for us. We have roughly estimated/planned a budget of 25,000 to 40,000 euros. Whether this will work out or not, and if our general contractor will be enthusiastic about it, still remains to be seen.

It will work out 🙂

We faced the same decision and visited four pool companies in the region, while also researching extensively in forums. We then decided to include the pool right from the start during the new construction. So, we went to the construction company with the pool we purchased and the architect’s plan, so it would be incorporated from the beginning. Our experience so far: The construction company is not enthusiastic about the pool at all, but they have to take it into account since we brought it in as part of the house build from the start. Therefore, my advice is: Talk to the construction company early on, prepare yourself for the plumber, electrician, and earthwork contractors, who in our case were all reluctantly coordinating with the pool specialists, and keep checking with the site manager to make sure he keeps track of the pool’s coordination (otherwise, like in our case, he might assume you’ll handle it yourself somehow).

To realistically estimate costs, I recommend discussing all expenses with both the construction company and the pool firms, because we had several additional costs (drainage, electrical work, connection to the house, on-site services, etc.). We are in Munich, so please take our prices with a grain of salt, but for around 10,000 euros you can get an above-ground pool or just the pool shell from the internet without installation, filtration system, or cover. The cheapest offer we got here for a 7m x 3m (23ft x 10ft) pool without earthworks came from Desjoyeux, which was 50,000 euros (did not convince us visually for that price), the mid-range offers are around 60,000 euros (plus earthworks and house connection costs, with an electric cover but without counter-current system or other extras, only a compass ceramic shell; the pool company quoted us about 10,000 euros extra for earthworks and connection costs), and the really nice pools from Riviera or concrete pools with liners came to a total of 80,000–100,000 euros.

Where are you building and what are the pool prices like in your area?

Isn’t a swim spa worth considering?