ᐅ Plot with Cutout for Electrical Substation / L-Shaped - Concept Exploration
Created on: 22 Oct 2019 22:42
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Traufgänger
Hello everyone,
We have received a plot of land with a small transformer station located at one corner. We have considered various options but haven’t been able to decide on anything yet. This is our first build, so perhaps others might see possibilities or ideas we haven’t thought of.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size
Approx. 21m (69 feet) wide x 30m (98 feet) long – minus transformer station = 570 m² (6135 sq ft)
Slope
Very flat, about 1m (3.3 feet) difference across the entire site.
Road is the highest point, then gently slopes down by -1m (-3.3 feet)
Floor space index
See plan
Floor area ratio
See plan
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Marked on the plan, distances according to Baden-Württemberg state building regulations
Edge development
Non-residential building. To the right side of our plot, the planned residential building with a 3m (10 feet) garage on the neighbor’s boundary is shown.
Number of parking spaces
2 per dwelling unit
Number of stories
2
Max. building height 6.00m (20 feet)
Roof shape
Open, as far as I have read, all roof types are allowed within the corresponding angles
Architectural style
No specification
Orientation
Flexible within the building envelope
Maximum heights / limits
Max. building height 6.00m (20 feet),
Full building height 8.50m (28 feet)
Max. deviation of 0.50m (1.6 feet) allowed for single-family houses
Other notes:
Existing transformer station at the top left corner.
Setback areas marked on our plot.
Currently surrounded by an earth berm that the utility company temporarily placed on our land for renovation – it will be removed.
Client Requirements
Style, roof form, building type
We are quite unsure. A modern townhouse would be great; I like spacious, bright rooms. Flat roofs are less preferred due to waterproofing concerns. Our plan: a single-family home, possibly with two dwelling units for future renting or an immediate granny flat for a home office.
Basement, floors
1 basement planned for hobbies and home office; 2 full floors possible at a max. height of 6.00m (20 feet)?
Number of occupants, ages
4 people (possibly 5 if we’re lucky), 2 adults around 40 years old, 2 children aged 2 and 5 years
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Ground floor: open living room combined with dining area + kitchen + home office or alternative bedroom for older age.
Shower on ground floor.
Office: dedicated home office space, real workspace usage.
Number of guest stays per year
About 5–6
Open or closed architecture
Preferably open, lots of light, I like floor-to-ceiling windows. Still looking for inspiration, ideas from what is common today and what we might be missing.
Modern construction, white bright rooms, lots of natural light, sun, rather bold, extraordinary.
So far, we might be a bit conventional.
Real kitchen, my wife cooks and bakes, with an island and breakfast bar for quick meals or takeaway pizza.
Number of dining seats
6 for daily use, 10 for parties.
Fireplace
Yes, integrated would be sufficient.
Music/Stereo wall
No specific plans at the moment.
Balcony, roof terrace
Balcony planned facing south, intended to serve as sun protection.
Garage, carport
Double garage at least 6x6m (20x20 feet) or larger to accommodate bicycles and children’s toys.
How would you position the garage? I’m not fully satisfied. A large garage would be nice, maybe even 8m length (26 feet) for a caravan? Though probably too big to fit.
Lawn/garden for playing football and children to run around.
House Design
Planner from a construction company
What do you like most? Why?
Practical layout with smooth transition to the outdoors from the living room, open roof, exposed beams would be nice but complicated and expensive due to double-layer construction.
What do you dislike? Why?
South elevation top, balcony design, window depths, and arrangement – we are unsure. It lacks some flair in the layout.
We welcome ideas or suggestions – do you see things or approaches that we don’t, new perspectives or things we might have completely
forgotten or overestimated?
Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
Open, quote pending
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
Still in the budgeting phase and not fully clear yet
Preferred heating technology:
Open to anything – underfloor heating is mandatory
If you had to give up something, what features or extras
-can you go without:
Studio
-can’t you do without:
Home office
Why is the design the way it is now?
E.g., number and function of rooms, competitor offer as a basis, necessity of the layout due to the plot
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
What implementation ideas do you have that we haven’t considered to optimize the plot use? Ideas for the house to inspire or ground us welcome. First build.
Plot plan:
Neighborhood and roof shapes, etc.
Basement floor plan
Ground floor plan
Upper floor plan
Section
Possible 3D renderings
Thanks for all opinions and ideas.
Greetings from Swabia,
Traufgänger
We have received a plot of land with a small transformer station located at one corner. We have considered various options but haven’t been able to decide on anything yet. This is our first build, so perhaps others might see possibilities or ideas we haven’t thought of.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size
Approx. 21m (69 feet) wide x 30m (98 feet) long – minus transformer station = 570 m² (6135 sq ft)
Slope
Very flat, about 1m (3.3 feet) difference across the entire site.
Road is the highest point, then gently slopes down by -1m (-3.3 feet)
Floor space index
See plan
Floor area ratio
See plan
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Marked on the plan, distances according to Baden-Württemberg state building regulations
Edge development
Non-residential building. To the right side of our plot, the planned residential building with a 3m (10 feet) garage on the neighbor’s boundary is shown.
Number of parking spaces
2 per dwelling unit
Number of stories
2
Max. building height 6.00m (20 feet)
Roof shape
Open, as far as I have read, all roof types are allowed within the corresponding angles
Architectural style
No specification
Orientation
Flexible within the building envelope
Maximum heights / limits
Max. building height 6.00m (20 feet),
Full building height 8.50m (28 feet)
Max. deviation of 0.50m (1.6 feet) allowed for single-family houses
Other notes:
Existing transformer station at the top left corner.
Setback areas marked on our plot.
Currently surrounded by an earth berm that the utility company temporarily placed on our land for renovation – it will be removed.
Client Requirements
Style, roof form, building type
We are quite unsure. A modern townhouse would be great; I like spacious, bright rooms. Flat roofs are less preferred due to waterproofing concerns. Our plan: a single-family home, possibly with two dwelling units for future renting or an immediate granny flat for a home office.
Basement, floors
1 basement planned for hobbies and home office; 2 full floors possible at a max. height of 6.00m (20 feet)?
Number of occupants, ages
4 people (possibly 5 if we’re lucky), 2 adults around 40 years old, 2 children aged 2 and 5 years
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Ground floor: open living room combined with dining area + kitchen + home office or alternative bedroom for older age.
Shower on ground floor.
Office: dedicated home office space, real workspace usage.
Number of guest stays per year
About 5–6
Open or closed architecture
Preferably open, lots of light, I like floor-to-ceiling windows. Still looking for inspiration, ideas from what is common today and what we might be missing.
Modern construction, white bright rooms, lots of natural light, sun, rather bold, extraordinary.
So far, we might be a bit conventional.
Real kitchen, my wife cooks and bakes, with an island and breakfast bar for quick meals or takeaway pizza.
Number of dining seats
6 for daily use, 10 for parties.
Fireplace
Yes, integrated would be sufficient.
Music/Stereo wall
No specific plans at the moment.
Balcony, roof terrace
Balcony planned facing south, intended to serve as sun protection.
Garage, carport
Double garage at least 6x6m (20x20 feet) or larger to accommodate bicycles and children’s toys.
How would you position the garage? I’m not fully satisfied. A large garage would be nice, maybe even 8m length (26 feet) for a caravan? Though probably too big to fit.
Lawn/garden for playing football and children to run around.
House Design
Planner from a construction company
What do you like most? Why?
Practical layout with smooth transition to the outdoors from the living room, open roof, exposed beams would be nice but complicated and expensive due to double-layer construction.
What do you dislike? Why?
South elevation top, balcony design, window depths, and arrangement – we are unsure. It lacks some flair in the layout.
We welcome ideas or suggestions – do you see things or approaches that we don’t, new perspectives or things we might have completely
forgotten or overestimated?
Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
Open, quote pending
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
Still in the budgeting phase and not fully clear yet
Preferred heating technology:
Open to anything – underfloor heating is mandatory
If you had to give up something, what features or extras
-can you go without:
Studio
-can’t you do without:
Home office
Why is the design the way it is now?
E.g., number and function of rooms, competitor offer as a basis, necessity of the layout due to the plot
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
What implementation ideas do you have that we haven’t considered to optimize the plot use? Ideas for the house to inspire or ground us welcome. First build.
Plot plan:
Neighborhood and roof shapes, etc.
Basement floor plan
Ground floor plan
Upper floor plan
Section
Possible 3D renderings
Thanks for all opinions and ideas.
Greetings from Swabia,
Traufgänger
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Traufgänger25 Feb 2023 20:5511ant schrieb:
I’m surprised by two things: first, the long planning phase, and second, that I apparently haven’t asked yet in this thread what material is being used for the build. On one hand, I see exterior walls in the classic solid construction thickness of 365mm (14 inches), but on the other hand, unusual interior wall thicknesses and dimensions that break with the usual patterns.
While planning the floor layout, I get the impression of being stuck, attached to visualizing a still unrefined design whose “spirit” is somehow meant to be preserved, leading to a kind of spatial Tetris. This is a typical phenomenon with draftsman-driven planning. Probably, the supposedly higher fee investment in an independent architect would have paid off twice over by avoiding the interim increases in construction costs.
I recommend a relaunch and fresh start with professional planning methodology. A patchwork approach—which is the exact opposite of clean code—dramatically increases the likelihood of construction defects due to complex connection details everywhere. And as the design is further refined along the wrong path and with growing frustration, the wine more likely turns to vinegar than the power of prayers would cut the Gordian knot.Hello ant11! What almost philosophical sentences. Amazing. Yes, you’re partly right—at least you understood my state of mind 🙂 So, it will be a timber frame house with wood fiber insulation. The long planning phase is because we didn’t want to start during the pandemic, then nothing was available afterward, followed by the war, and then goodbye KFW program 🙂
Oh, and work has been crazy for me these last two years—it really is true that I thought we’d just build when things returned to normal.
The builder is a local medium-sized company and is fine. Because of the transformer station issue, we have a Gordian knot over where to put the garage, how much garden space will remain, and where it makes sense to move the kitchen. Obviously, it’s not simple for us.
So ideas are always welcome 🙂 I agree about the professional architect—not an issue because of costs or anything, but we simply had the local builder in mind. He does solid work, but I still feel it lacks a bit of flair or something that makes me say, “Yeah, that’s cool.” The spatial Tetris doesn’t improve because of that either 😉
I’m open to all suggestions 🙂
Best regards, Traufgänger
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Traufgänger25 Feb 2023 20:56andimann schrieb:
Hello,
Am I correct in understanding that you have been working on the house plans for 2.5 years? Guys, it’s a house, not an aircraft carrier...
I see clear signs of getting sidetracked...
Best regards,
Andreas Hello Andi,
we haven’t been consistently working on it all the time. In what way do you mean getting sidetracked?
Regarding the floor plan?
Best regards, Traufgänger
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Traufgänger25 Feb 2023 20:58xMisterDx schrieb:
Almost a six-figure amount? Given the size of the house and price increases of 20–30% over the past 2 or 3 years, you can definitely expect a six-figure sum... Hello Mister X, yes, good estimate. Unfortunately, there’s nothing we can do about it, and at the time it seemed better to wait until Corona was over or the world returned to normal. I honestly never thought the world would change this much. It’s quite incredible. Luckily, we can still manage it financially.
Best regards, Traufgänger.
Traufgänger schrieb:
Hello ant11! Those are almost philosophical sentences. Amazing. Yes, you’re somewhat right—at least you understood my mood 🙂 So, it will be a timber frame house with wood fiber insulation. [...] The builder is a local medium-sized company and is fine. [...] I agree about the professional architect, it’s not really an issue because of cost or anything like that, but we simply had the local provider in mind. They do solid work, but I still feel something is missing—there’s no real flair or that “cool” factor. The space layout doesn’t get any better because of it 😉
So I’m open to any suggestions Hello gängerTrauf, I’m not only a bit right as a philosopher, but also a practical midwife for dreams of home ownership—so you can have plenty of suggestions, as well as some “massages” to untangle Gordian knots ;-)
There is not just one local medium-sized provider. If the “Eureka” moment doesn’t happen, you can and should keep looking (which I now also do professionally at the urging of my readers). Especially in the timber construction sector, many “younger” companies are still in development phases, which the original pioneers have long passed (meaning: they often repeat their mistakes). But whatever kind of provider would dare to have fun with wall construction at the typical caliber of masonry builders, you absolutely have to tell me about that (same on gmx de as here, you’ve probably read that already).
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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hanghaus202326 Feb 2023 12:28To position the house as far north as possible and also have the garage driveway on the north side, here is the following suggestion.
Now it would be possible to exclude either the garage or the house.
I quite liked the bay window on the ground floor, as in your first design.
Now it would be possible to exclude either the garage or the house.
I quite liked the bay window on the ground floor, as in your first design.
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Traufgänger27 Feb 2023 21:47hanghaus2023 schrieb:
To position the house as far north as possible and have the garage driveway also accessible from the north, here is the following suggestion.
Now the garage or the house could be left out.
I quite liked the bay window on the ground floor like in your first design. Hi, greetings Hanghaus2023. We also came up with this idea at the end, or maybe just a garage and instead adding a carport 🙂
The bay window does have something special. We dropped it back then because our external dimensions increased and we prioritized the room at the front left with about 3.85 x 4.00m (12.6 x 13.1 ft) so that it could be used barrier-free in case something happens to one of us 🙂
Best regards and thanks for your inspiration
Traufgänger
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