ᐅ Plot with Cutout for Electrical Substation / L-Shaped - Concept Exploration
Created on: 22 Oct 2019 22:42
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Traufgänger
Hello everyone,
We have received a plot of land with a small transformer station located at one corner. We have considered various options but haven’t been able to decide on anything yet. This is our first build, so perhaps others might see possibilities or ideas we haven’t thought of.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size
Approx. 21m (69 feet) wide x 30m (98 feet) long – minus transformer station = 570 m² (6135 sq ft)
Slope
Very flat, about 1m (3.3 feet) difference across the entire site.
Road is the highest point, then gently slopes down by -1m (-3.3 feet)
Floor space index
See plan
Floor area ratio
See plan
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Marked on the plan, distances according to Baden-Württemberg state building regulations
Edge development
Non-residential building. To the right side of our plot, the planned residential building with a 3m (10 feet) garage on the neighbor’s boundary is shown.
Number of parking spaces
2 per dwelling unit
Number of stories
2
Max. building height 6.00m (20 feet)
Roof shape
Open, as far as I have read, all roof types are allowed within the corresponding angles
Architectural style
No specification
Orientation
Flexible within the building envelope
Maximum heights / limits
Max. building height 6.00m (20 feet),
Full building height 8.50m (28 feet)
Max. deviation of 0.50m (1.6 feet) allowed for single-family houses
Other notes:
Existing transformer station at the top left corner.
Setback areas marked on our plot.
Currently surrounded by an earth berm that the utility company temporarily placed on our land for renovation – it will be removed.
Client Requirements
Style, roof form, building type
We are quite unsure. A modern townhouse would be great; I like spacious, bright rooms. Flat roofs are less preferred due to waterproofing concerns. Our plan: a single-family home, possibly with two dwelling units for future renting or an immediate granny flat for a home office.
Basement, floors
1 basement planned for hobbies and home office; 2 full floors possible at a max. height of 6.00m (20 feet)?
Number of occupants, ages
4 people (possibly 5 if we’re lucky), 2 adults around 40 years old, 2 children aged 2 and 5 years
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Ground floor: open living room combined with dining area + kitchen + home office or alternative bedroom for older age.
Shower on ground floor.
Office: dedicated home office space, real workspace usage.
Number of guest stays per year
About 5–6
Open or closed architecture
Preferably open, lots of light, I like floor-to-ceiling windows. Still looking for inspiration, ideas from what is common today and what we might be missing.
Modern construction, white bright rooms, lots of natural light, sun, rather bold, extraordinary.
So far, we might be a bit conventional.
Real kitchen, my wife cooks and bakes, with an island and breakfast bar for quick meals or takeaway pizza.
Number of dining seats
6 for daily use, 10 for parties.
Fireplace
Yes, integrated would be sufficient.
Music/Stereo wall
No specific plans at the moment.
Balcony, roof terrace
Balcony planned facing south, intended to serve as sun protection.
Garage, carport
Double garage at least 6x6m (20x20 feet) or larger to accommodate bicycles and children’s toys.
How would you position the garage? I’m not fully satisfied. A large garage would be nice, maybe even 8m length (26 feet) for a caravan? Though probably too big to fit.
Lawn/garden for playing football and children to run around.
House Design
Planner from a construction company
What do you like most? Why?
Practical layout with smooth transition to the outdoors from the living room, open roof, exposed beams would be nice but complicated and expensive due to double-layer construction.
What do you dislike? Why?
South elevation top, balcony design, window depths, and arrangement – we are unsure. It lacks some flair in the layout.
We welcome ideas or suggestions – do you see things or approaches that we don’t, new perspectives or things we might have completely
forgotten or overestimated?
Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
Open, quote pending
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
Still in the budgeting phase and not fully clear yet
Preferred heating technology:
Open to anything – underfloor heating is mandatory
If you had to give up something, what features or extras
-can you go without:
Studio
-can’t you do without:
Home office
Why is the design the way it is now?
E.g., number and function of rooms, competitor offer as a basis, necessity of the layout due to the plot
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
What implementation ideas do you have that we haven’t considered to optimize the plot use? Ideas for the house to inspire or ground us welcome. First build.
Plot plan:
Neighborhood and roof shapes, etc.
Basement floor plan
Ground floor plan
Upper floor plan
Section
Possible 3D renderings
Thanks for all opinions and ideas.
Greetings from Swabia,
Traufgänger
We have received a plot of land with a small transformer station located at one corner. We have considered various options but haven’t been able to decide on anything yet. This is our first build, so perhaps others might see possibilities or ideas we haven’t thought of.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size
Approx. 21m (69 feet) wide x 30m (98 feet) long – minus transformer station = 570 m² (6135 sq ft)
Slope
Very flat, about 1m (3.3 feet) difference across the entire site.
Road is the highest point, then gently slopes down by -1m (-3.3 feet)
Floor space index
See plan
Floor area ratio
See plan
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Marked on the plan, distances according to Baden-Württemberg state building regulations
Edge development
Non-residential building. To the right side of our plot, the planned residential building with a 3m (10 feet) garage on the neighbor’s boundary is shown.
Number of parking spaces
2 per dwelling unit
Number of stories
2
Max. building height 6.00m (20 feet)
Roof shape
Open, as far as I have read, all roof types are allowed within the corresponding angles
Architectural style
No specification
Orientation
Flexible within the building envelope
Maximum heights / limits
Max. building height 6.00m (20 feet),
Full building height 8.50m (28 feet)
Max. deviation of 0.50m (1.6 feet) allowed for single-family houses
Other notes:
Existing transformer station at the top left corner.
Setback areas marked on our plot.
Currently surrounded by an earth berm that the utility company temporarily placed on our land for renovation – it will be removed.
Client Requirements
Style, roof form, building type
We are quite unsure. A modern townhouse would be great; I like spacious, bright rooms. Flat roofs are less preferred due to waterproofing concerns. Our plan: a single-family home, possibly with two dwelling units for future renting or an immediate granny flat for a home office.
Basement, floors
1 basement planned for hobbies and home office; 2 full floors possible at a max. height of 6.00m (20 feet)?
Number of occupants, ages
4 people (possibly 5 if we’re lucky), 2 adults around 40 years old, 2 children aged 2 and 5 years
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Ground floor: open living room combined with dining area + kitchen + home office or alternative bedroom for older age.
Shower on ground floor.
Office: dedicated home office space, real workspace usage.
Number of guest stays per year
About 5–6
Open or closed architecture
Preferably open, lots of light, I like floor-to-ceiling windows. Still looking for inspiration, ideas from what is common today and what we might be missing.
Modern construction, white bright rooms, lots of natural light, sun, rather bold, extraordinary.
So far, we might be a bit conventional.
Real kitchen, my wife cooks and bakes, with an island and breakfast bar for quick meals or takeaway pizza.
Number of dining seats
6 for daily use, 10 for parties.
Fireplace
Yes, integrated would be sufficient.
Music/Stereo wall
No specific plans at the moment.
Balcony, roof terrace
Balcony planned facing south, intended to serve as sun protection.
Garage, carport
Double garage at least 6x6m (20x20 feet) or larger to accommodate bicycles and children’s toys.
How would you position the garage? I’m not fully satisfied. A large garage would be nice, maybe even 8m length (26 feet) for a caravan? Though probably too big to fit.
Lawn/garden for playing football and children to run around.
House Design
Planner from a construction company
What do you like most? Why?
Practical layout with smooth transition to the outdoors from the living room, open roof, exposed beams would be nice but complicated and expensive due to double-layer construction.
What do you dislike? Why?
South elevation top, balcony design, window depths, and arrangement – we are unsure. It lacks some flair in the layout.
We welcome ideas or suggestions – do you see things or approaches that we don’t, new perspectives or things we might have completely
forgotten or overestimated?
Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
Open, quote pending
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
Still in the budgeting phase and not fully clear yet
Preferred heating technology:
Open to anything – underfloor heating is mandatory
If you had to give up something, what features or extras
-can you go without:
Studio
-can’t you do without:
Home office
Why is the design the way it is now?
E.g., number and function of rooms, competitor offer as a basis, necessity of the layout due to the plot
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
What implementation ideas do you have that we haven’t considered to optimize the plot use? Ideas for the house to inspire or ground us welcome. First build.
Plot plan:
Neighborhood and roof shapes, etc.
Basement floor plan
Ground floor plan
Upper floor plan
Section
Possible 3D renderings
Thanks for all opinions and ideas.
Greetings from Swabia,
Traufgänger
Hello,
Am I reading this correctly that you have been planning the house for 2.5 years? Folks, it’s just a house, not an aircraft carrier...
I see clear signs of losing focus...
Best regards,
Andreas
11ant schrieb:
I am amazed by two things: first, the long planning period
Am I reading this correctly that you have been planning the house for 2.5 years? Folks, it’s just a house, not an aircraft carrier...
I see clear signs of losing focus...
Best regards,
Andreas
andimann schrieb:
Am I seeing this correctly—you have been planning this house for 2.5 years? Guys, it’s a house, not an aircraft carrier....The complexity of the task is not the issue; that’s why I reasonably suspect the problem lies in the design process. Draftspersons have not studied design and can therefore only quickly deburr existing designs before finalizing them. Editorial restructuring overloads them, leading to countless loops of circling the target using the “Infinite Monkey Visualizations Ping-Pong” method. This method is highly inefficient. Hiring a draftsman instead of an architect inevitably turns into a slapstick scenario, like playing golf with a hockey stick. And as I said, it also wastes time valued at easily the equivalent of two full professional fees.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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I think the best option for you is to simply choose a finished design. Otherwise, you might end up planning until retirement and regretting the time lost in your home.
Hopefully, the budget is now fixed or not an issue? I’m sure it’s mentioned on the 6 pages, I didn’t see it in the original post 🙂
I think the best option for you is to simply choose a finished design. Otherwise, you might end up planning until retirement and regretting the time lost in your home.
Hopefully, the budget is now fixed or not an issue? I’m sure it’s mentioned on the 6 pages, I didn’t see it in the original post 🙂
Hello,
I just quickly skimmed through the thread again and need to correct myself: it’s not 2.5 years of planning, but 3.5 years!! Are you aware that you could have been living in the house for 2 years already and saved what is probably a nearly six-figure amount that the house’s price has increased by since then? Every month spent planning costs you additional money for renting your current apartment, financing the land, and further price increases. That can quickly add up to several thousand per month. You need to be able to afford that first!
This is not meant as harshly as it sounds, but within that time you could almost have completed a degree in civil engineering or architecture, and then points like #26 would be clearer to you.
If you are really serious about building, either engage a good architect to design the project or go with a general contractor and have a catalogue house built. You have completely lost focus...
Best regards,
Andreas
I just quickly skimmed through the thread again and need to correct myself: it’s not 2.5 years of planning, but 3.5 years!! Are you aware that you could have been living in the house for 2 years already and saved what is probably a nearly six-figure amount that the house’s price has increased by since then? Every month spent planning costs you additional money for renting your current apartment, financing the land, and further price increases. That can quickly add up to several thousand per month. You need to be able to afford that first!
This is not meant as harshly as it sounds, but within that time you could almost have completed a degree in civil engineering or architecture, and then points like #26 would be clearer to you.
If you are really serious about building, either engage a good architect to design the project or go with a general contractor and have a catalogue house built. You have completely lost focus...
Best regards,
Andreas
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xMisterDx20 Feb 2023 11:09Almost a six-figure amount? Given the house size and price increases of 20-30% over the last 2 to 3 years, it’s definitely safe to assume a six-figure sum...
andimann schrieb:
If you really want to build seriously, either go to a good architect and have them design your house or go to a general contractor and have a catalog home built. Well, don’t discourage the original poster right away or question their genuine intention to build. As far as I can see, they have done exactly that—approached a general contractor (and one of their competitors)—and for reasons that aren’t entirely clear to me, both construction proposals were not good enough to sign off on. Hoping for help from a forum to nail the house design from the penalty spot is not unreasonable in itself. Nor is it unusual for someone with a plot basically ready for a general contractor to hope to save costs by avoiding a freelance architect for a single-family house.
What I do not understand—given the rising construction costs—is why it wouldn’t be better to try a freelance architect instead of waiting endlessly, though that also commands a certain degree of admiration.
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