Hello everyone,
we have now started the first "internal" draft planning and I would be very grateful for any feedback – especially if there are any of our “ideas” that are completely off the mark...
Development Plan / Restrictions:
"Facts"
no development plan, last plot at the edge of a village area
Plot size: 330m² (approx. 21.8m x 14.8m / 71.5ft x 48.5ft)
Slope: about 7°
Clay-loam soil, limestone at shallow depth
Information according to building permit inquiry
Site coverage ratio: 0.6
Floor area ratio: 1.2
Street = building line
2 parking spaces
Number of storeys: max. 2 full storeys
Roof style: any
Eaves height 6m (20ft)
Ridge height 10m (33ft)
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: flat roof preferred, but e.g., also “modern barn” style
Basement with daylight from the slope as a lower ground floor, above that a “real” storey
2 persons (35, 36 years old)
Space requirement ground floor and upper floor: approx. 200m² (2,150 sq ft) total
Office: 2x home offices
Guest stays per year: none
Open architecture
Modern construction method
Open kitchen with kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: no
Garage, carport: not essential, 2 parking spaces sufficient
Utility garden, greenhouse: as little garden as possible
Other wishes: KNX system, air conditioning for main rooms
House design
Designer: do-it-yourself
What do you like most? Why?: main living areas all on one level
What do you dislike? Why?: bathroom and dressing room borderline “small”
Personal budget for the house, including fixtures: approx. 500,000 to max. 700,000 euros
Preferred heating system: we don’t really care
If you had to cut back, on which details or extensions
- Can be omitted: lounge on ground floor, pantry
- Cannot be omitted: guest WC on upper floor, dressing room, minimum clear ceiling height on upper floor 2.70m (better 3m / 9ft 10in)
Why has the design turned out as it is now?, for example:
“Optimizing” the eaves height while maximizing the use of setback distances
Minimize earthworks as much as possible (considering the soil...)
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Have I completely misjudged any fundamental aspect? Is any detail of the design “absurdly expensive”?
Note 1: Views are just for a general idea of the plot situation at this stage – windows and so on still look pretty rough…
Note 2: Plan is drawn roughly to scale (5mm grid = 50cm / 20 inches), numbers in () are m²; north is bottom left on ground floor and upper floor plans, the beautiful view to the south is top right :-)
Already now: many thanks for all your feedback!!!
we have now started the first "internal" draft planning and I would be very grateful for any feedback – especially if there are any of our “ideas” that are completely off the mark...
Development Plan / Restrictions:
"Facts"
no development plan, last plot at the edge of a village area
Plot size: 330m² (approx. 21.8m x 14.8m / 71.5ft x 48.5ft)
Slope: about 7°
Clay-loam soil, limestone at shallow depth
Information according to building permit inquiry
Site coverage ratio: 0.6
Floor area ratio: 1.2
Street = building line
2 parking spaces
Number of storeys: max. 2 full storeys
Roof style: any
Eaves height 6m (20ft)
Ridge height 10m (33ft)
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: flat roof preferred, but e.g., also “modern barn” style
Basement with daylight from the slope as a lower ground floor, above that a “real” storey
2 persons (35, 36 years old)
Space requirement ground floor and upper floor: approx. 200m² (2,150 sq ft) total
Office: 2x home offices
Guest stays per year: none
Open architecture
Modern construction method
Open kitchen with kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: no
Garage, carport: not essential, 2 parking spaces sufficient
Utility garden, greenhouse: as little garden as possible
Other wishes: KNX system, air conditioning for main rooms
House design
Designer: do-it-yourself
What do you like most? Why?: main living areas all on one level
What do you dislike? Why?: bathroom and dressing room borderline “small”
Personal budget for the house, including fixtures: approx. 500,000 to max. 700,000 euros
Preferred heating system: we don’t really care
If you had to cut back, on which details or extensions
- Can be omitted: lounge on ground floor, pantry
- Cannot be omitted: guest WC on upper floor, dressing room, minimum clear ceiling height on upper floor 2.70m (better 3m / 9ft 10in)
Why has the design turned out as it is now?, for example:
“Optimizing” the eaves height while maximizing the use of setback distances
Minimize earthworks as much as possible (considering the soil...)
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Have I completely misjudged any fundamental aspect? Is any detail of the design “absurdly expensive”?
Note 1: Views are just for a general idea of the plot situation at this stage – windows and so on still look pretty rough…
Note 2: Plan is drawn roughly to scale (5mm grid = 50cm / 20 inches), numbers in () are m²; north is bottom left on ground floor and upper floor plans, the beautiful view to the south is top right :-)
Already now: many thanks for all your feedback!!!
GaertM1 schrieb:
A flat roof would be nice, but also something like a "modern barn."GaertM1 schrieb:
I always struggle a bit with this:
a) come with a clear idea
or
b) "Hello architect, here’s the plot, a house for two, please start, then we talk 🙂"
Now I’m sensing that option "b" has some advantages.No, both a AND b, in exactly that order. First, you need to sort out your own doubts, because you will only be able to combine flat roof and modern barn with "or"—otherwise, it will be a "house for two" in the sense of "two architects," meaning you would have to go to the architectural firm Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde :-)https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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askforafriend19 Mar 2021 20:17icandoit schrieb:
I also wouldn’t specify 200m2 (2150 sq ft) in the requirements for just two people.Why?
11ant schrieb:
No, a AND b, exactly in that order. First, you have to come to terms with yourself, because you can only connect flat roof and modern barn with "or" – otherwise, it will be a "house for two," meaning "two architects," so you’d have to visit the architectural firm Jekyll & Hyde 🙂 The main point was really not to bring DIY plans when creating the specification sheet.
Looking at the surroundings, a flat roof wouldn’t be my first thought. More likely split-level or modern barn. For such a decision, I would ask the architect for advice or ideas.
I would like to see some relaxation regarding the building line right at the street. I shudder at the thought of the excavation for the basement and the beautiful paved street.
askforafriend schrieb:
Why?Because I have learned from experience that size isn’t everything.
I built a home for 6 people and now I would prefer to build smaller. For 2 people in the future.
Small but nice.
askforafriend schrieb:
Why?Size isn’t everything.
The key is to meet the requirements for the rooms.
Maybe 170 m² (1,830 sq ft) is enough?
There have already been many floor plans with over 200 m² (2,150 sq ft) that cause a feeling of claustrophobia, while other layouts with 170 m² (1,830 sq ft) are spacious, airy, and light.
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