Hello everyone,
we have now started the first "internal" draft planning and I would be very grateful for any feedback – especially if there are any of our “ideas” that are completely off the mark...
Development Plan / Restrictions:
"Facts"
no development plan, last plot at the edge of a village area
Plot size: 330m² (approx. 21.8m x 14.8m / 71.5ft x 48.5ft)
Slope: about 7°
Clay-loam soil, limestone at shallow depth
Information according to building permit inquiry
Site coverage ratio: 0.6
Floor area ratio: 1.2
Street = building line
2 parking spaces
Number of storeys: max. 2 full storeys
Roof style: any
Eaves height 6m (20ft)
Ridge height 10m (33ft)
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: flat roof preferred, but e.g., also “modern barn” style
Basement with daylight from the slope as a lower ground floor, above that a “real” storey
2 persons (35, 36 years old)
Space requirement ground floor and upper floor: approx. 200m² (2,150 sq ft) total
Office: 2x home offices
Guest stays per year: none
Open architecture
Modern construction method
Open kitchen with kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: no
Garage, carport: not essential, 2 parking spaces sufficient
Utility garden, greenhouse: as little garden as possible
Other wishes: KNX system, air conditioning for main rooms
House design
Designer: do-it-yourself
What do you like most? Why?: main living areas all on one level
What do you dislike? Why?: bathroom and dressing room borderline “small”
Personal budget for the house, including fixtures: approx. 500,000 to max. 700,000 euros
Preferred heating system: we don’t really care
If you had to cut back, on which details or extensions
- Can be omitted: lounge on ground floor, pantry
- Cannot be omitted: guest WC on upper floor, dressing room, minimum clear ceiling height on upper floor 2.70m (better 3m / 9ft 10in)
Why has the design turned out as it is now?, for example:
“Optimizing” the eaves height while maximizing the use of setback distances
Minimize earthworks as much as possible (considering the soil...)
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Have I completely misjudged any fundamental aspect? Is any detail of the design “absurdly expensive”?
Note 1: Views are just for a general idea of the plot situation at this stage – windows and so on still look pretty rough…
Note 2: Plan is drawn roughly to scale (5mm grid = 50cm / 20 inches), numbers in () are m²; north is bottom left on ground floor and upper floor plans, the beautiful view to the south is top right :-)
Already now: many thanks for all your feedback!!!
we have now started the first "internal" draft planning and I would be very grateful for any feedback – especially if there are any of our “ideas” that are completely off the mark...
Development Plan / Restrictions:
"Facts"
no development plan, last plot at the edge of a village area
Plot size: 330m² (approx. 21.8m x 14.8m / 71.5ft x 48.5ft)
Slope: about 7°
Clay-loam soil, limestone at shallow depth
Information according to building permit inquiry
Site coverage ratio: 0.6
Floor area ratio: 1.2
Street = building line
2 parking spaces
Number of storeys: max. 2 full storeys
Roof style: any
Eaves height 6m (20ft)
Ridge height 10m (33ft)
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: flat roof preferred, but e.g., also “modern barn” style
Basement with daylight from the slope as a lower ground floor, above that a “real” storey
2 persons (35, 36 years old)
Space requirement ground floor and upper floor: approx. 200m² (2,150 sq ft) total
Office: 2x home offices
Guest stays per year: none
Open architecture
Modern construction method
Open kitchen with kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: no
Garage, carport: not essential, 2 parking spaces sufficient
Utility garden, greenhouse: as little garden as possible
Other wishes: KNX system, air conditioning for main rooms
House design
Designer: do-it-yourself
What do you like most? Why?: main living areas all on one level
What do you dislike? Why?: bathroom and dressing room borderline “small”
Personal budget for the house, including fixtures: approx. 500,000 to max. 700,000 euros
Preferred heating system: we don’t really care
If you had to cut back, on which details or extensions
- Can be omitted: lounge on ground floor, pantry
- Cannot be omitted: guest WC on upper floor, dressing room, minimum clear ceiling height on upper floor 2.70m (better 3m / 9ft 10in)
Why has the design turned out as it is now?, for example:
“Optimizing” the eaves height while maximizing the use of setback distances
Minimize earthworks as much as possible (considering the soil...)
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Have I completely misjudged any fundamental aspect? Is any detail of the design “absurdly expensive”?
Note 1: Views are just for a general idea of the plot situation at this stage – windows and so on still look pretty rough…
Note 2: Plan is drawn roughly to scale (5mm grid = 50cm / 20 inches), numbers in () are m²; north is bottom left on ground floor and upper floor plans, the beautiful view to the south is top right :-)
Already now: many thanks for all your feedback!!!
GaertM1 schrieb:
@ Hangman: Attention – no setback area on the street side, due to the building lineThat’s true, but then you have to place parking spaces, etc., next to the house... it doesn’t make the space any more open. You’ll need a professional for that.
For us, all the houses face the street, and some don’t even have a sidewalk in front—except ours. We’re a bit different in that regard.
Then consider planning an outdoor living area. It’s a living space with great quality. Why ignore that?
I also really enjoy working outside. Why sit in an office when the weather is nice?
Outdoor area – you don’t have much to work with, so you’ll have to decide what to do.
Often people simply choose greenery with irrigation and a robotic lawn mower, or gravel; a natural style is also possible with little maintenance, for example a prairie garden.
Really start with a spatial plan. What needs to go where?
Then consider planning an outdoor living area. It’s a living space with great quality. Why ignore that?
I also really enjoy working outside. Why sit in an office when the weather is nice?
Outdoor area – you don’t have much to work with, so you’ll have to decide what to do.
Often people simply choose greenery with irrigation and a robotic lawn mower, or gravel; a natural style is also possible with little maintenance, for example a prairie garden.
Really start with a spatial plan. What needs to go where?
haydee schrieb:
Are you vampires?I had to laugh out loud – thanks for that 😀
Seriously though: Time to see the architect!
@ haydee: I like the idea of the "outdoor living room" and have added it to my list.
@ icandoit: Yes, there is a change in elevation in the northeast (that’s where the vineyard is, visible as parallel lines on the site plan). Currently, it is built as a dry stone wall. The road basically follows the slope. I’ve attached a photo that I think shows this quite well.
One question about the architect: we are still not sure how the final construction will be done (whether as a prefabricated house from the general contractor, solid construction by a general contractor, or architect-led project management). We have scheduled a meeting with a prefabricated house provider who focuses on custom-designed homes. Do you think this will help us make progress, or should we go directly to an independent architect? Which phases of work would this include for the space program, initial floor plan, etc.? (HOAI phases 1-4??). Or would this be more of a concept consultation billed by time and effort?

@ icandoit: Yes, there is a change in elevation in the northeast (that’s where the vineyard is, visible as parallel lines on the site plan). Currently, it is built as a dry stone wall. The road basically follows the slope. I’ve attached a photo that I think shows this quite well.
One question about the architect: we are still not sure how the final construction will be done (whether as a prefabricated house from the general contractor, solid construction by a general contractor, or architect-led project management). We have scheduled a meeting with a prefabricated house provider who focuses on custom-designed homes. Do you think this will help us make progress, or should we go directly to an independent architect? Which phases of work would this include for the space program, initial floor plan, etc.? (HOAI phases 1-4??). Or would this be more of a concept consultation billed by time and effort?
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