ᐅ Found a plot of land but it’s too large – looking for a building partner
Created on: 10 Apr 2025 13:01
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MT_Berlin
Hello,
I hope this is the right forum for this topic.
We have found a plot of land in Eichwalde (right on the city border of Berlin) that we really like, and everything suggests that we could build a house there according to our plans.
However, the property consists of two parcels, and we only need the front one. Together, the two are too large and too expensive. The seller has communicated through the real estate agent that he would prefer to sell both parcels together. Therefore, we are looking for a building partner who wants to build their house on this auction plot.
The rear parcel is about 650sqm (7000 sq ft) plus the narrow strip. According to §34, it is buildable, and since the neighboring houses are fairly large, a relatively large house with up to 120sqm (1300 sq ft) of footprint and two full floors would likely be permitted by the building authority. It is being sold just below the local standard land value. Apparently, there are no significant restrictions (no trees that are difficult to remove, only an old weekend cottage).
Does anyone have an idea where we could find someone? We have already reached out to acquaintances and colleagues. The real estate agent is rather unmotivated, probably because they don’t want to work too hard for a 7% commission.
I hope this is the right forum for this topic.
We have found a plot of land in Eichwalde (right on the city border of Berlin) that we really like, and everything suggests that we could build a house there according to our plans.
However, the property consists of two parcels, and we only need the front one. Together, the two are too large and too expensive. The seller has communicated through the real estate agent that he would prefer to sell both parcels together. Therefore, we are looking for a building partner who wants to build their house on this auction plot.
The rear parcel is about 650sqm (7000 sq ft) plus the narrow strip. According to §34, it is buildable, and since the neighboring houses are fairly large, a relatively large house with up to 120sqm (1300 sq ft) of footprint and two full floors would likely be permitted by the building authority. It is being sold just below the local standard land value. Apparently, there are no significant restrictions (no trees that are difficult to remove, only an old weekend cottage).
Does anyone have an idea where we could find someone? We have already reached out to acquaintances and colleagues. The real estate agent is rather unmotivated, probably because they don’t want to work too hard for a 7% commission.
HausiKlausi12 Apr 2025 18:47I was just about to say that, but Ziegenhals beat me to it: It’s a great area around Schmöckwitz, Köpenick, and so on, but please consider carefully if and how you can live with the BER airport! We live quite a bit further away (30km (19 miles)) and only experience flight traffic with certain wind directions. Even that is audible and quite frequent. In the medium term, schools shouldn’t be a problem; as far as I know, student numbers are declining and class sizes are expected to decrease over the next few years.
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Ziegenhals12 Apr 2025 22:17Ziegenhals schrieb:
Please check in the bb viewer and display the Eichwalde parcels.What I mean is that when you look at the Eichwalde parcels, you notice that there is practically no backland development in Eichwalde, despite very large plots. (At most a few Stasi summer houses.) Therefore, development on both properties is probably excluded under Section 34. Most likely, you can build on the front property, but then not on the rear one—or vice versa. So, it’s either one or the other, not both. A semi-detached house, however, might be possible. It’s important to clarify the development potential of both properties before purchasing.
Otherwise, it’s a nice plot. The aircraft noise is really manageable so far.
Good luck!
M
MT_Berlin5 May 2025 14:17It is not true that there is no development in the second row in Eichwalde. There are not many, but there are some, and these are often new buildings.
According to the responsible building authority, it is definitely possible. However, for legal security, the interested party in the rear (who has already consulted an expert in building law) has submitted a preliminary building inquiry. We have also made an inquiry to confirm whether a rear house (if approved) would still allow the front building.
Aircraft noise north of Waldstrasse on the Berlin side is noticeable. Between Waldstrasse and Bhfstrasse, it is tolerable, and south of that it is much quieter than the city noise we are used to. Side streets with buses and partygoers are also not quiet.
According to the responsible building authority, it is definitely possible. However, for legal security, the interested party in the rear (who has already consulted an expert in building law) has submitted a preliminary building inquiry. We have also made an inquiry to confirm whether a rear house (if approved) would still allow the front building.
Aircraft noise north of Waldstrasse on the Berlin side is noticeable. Between Waldstrasse and Bhfstrasse, it is tolerable, and south of that it is much quieter than the city noise we are used to. Side streets with buses and partygoers are also not quiet.
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MT_Berlin6 May 2025 11:07I am really interested in how the following buildings came about: several houses in the second row at the end of Bahnhofstr., some in Gosener Str., and Grenzstr.
There are more in Lotharstr., and one in Goethestr. near Chopinstr.
There are over 10 houses in the second row alone in the nearby area (maximum 2-3 streets away), all no older than 20 years. These are definitely not converted weekend homes, unless the old DDR-era weekend house was completely torn down and replaced on the same spot by a 1.5 to 2-story building with modern exterior dimensions, and declared a conversion.
@justcme: If you have contacts, how does that work? Is it about connections or what?
There are more in Lotharstr., and one in Goethestr. near Chopinstr.
There are over 10 houses in the second row alone in the nearby area (maximum 2-3 streets away), all no older than 20 years. These are definitely not converted weekend homes, unless the old DDR-era weekend house was completely torn down and replaced on the same spot by a 1.5 to 2-story building with modern exterior dimensions, and declared a conversion.
@justcme: If you have contacts, how does that work? Is it about connections or what?
I vaguely remember from my training that § 34 states the construction project should fit into the immediate surroundings. Eichwalde, however, is clearly characterized by detached villas without infill development, and this character should be preserved. Whether 10 houses in the area, regardless of how they came about, are enough to justify infill development is something only the head of the building authority can ultimately decide.
In Schulzendorf, I personally know at least three families who have received negative assessments regarding infill development.
No connections, just professional contact.
In Schulzendorf, I personally know at least three families who have received negative assessments regarding infill development.
No connections, just professional contact.