Since my related post as a reply in an existing thread https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/welche-software-zur-grundrissplanung-und-modellierung.38470/page-3#post-490468 seems to be too "hidden" to have been seen, I am now trying again with a new thread:
I intend to create a planning tutorial for those who design floor plans themselves but would otherwise get hopelessly tangled up in a puzzle. However, I do not want to do this in the form of a video. Instead, I want to design a small collection of sample houses so that these plans can be adapted by users themselves—directly as a template file. In other words, as if you were starting a project in planning software yourself. Only this way, you don’t sit in front of a blank screen feeling lost, but rather the base material as a pie crust / kit is already there.
The user should not have to "trace" a template draft but receive it pre-made and editable. I want to, for example, demonstrate variants with their respective consequences (changing the knee wall height, adding a Dutch gable, extending a bay window, etc.). For instance, how a Flair 110/113 would look as a detached villa or as a bungalow.
So, a whole house as a template. You should be able to download it and continue working on it. For this, I would preferably like an offline house planning software that is widely used and/or whose file formats can be opened and edited by other house planners. If necessary, an online house planning software would also be acceptable, provided you can invite an unlimited number of other users to share the project with (and that they can work on it without unintentionally altering it for other users).
Of course, in a "volunteer capacity," I cannot create such templates for multiple programs but only for one with as wide a distribution as possible. Which one that would be does not matter to me, as I would have to learn any of them first.
Which house planning software would you recommend for this purpose?
I intend to create a planning tutorial for those who design floor plans themselves but would otherwise get hopelessly tangled up in a puzzle. However, I do not want to do this in the form of a video. Instead, I want to design a small collection of sample houses so that these plans can be adapted by users themselves—directly as a template file. In other words, as if you were starting a project in planning software yourself. Only this way, you don’t sit in front of a blank screen feeling lost, but rather the base material as a pie crust / kit is already there.
The user should not have to "trace" a template draft but receive it pre-made and editable. I want to, for example, demonstrate variants with their respective consequences (changing the knee wall height, adding a Dutch gable, extending a bay window, etc.). For instance, how a Flair 110/113 would look as a detached villa or as a bungalow.
So, a whole house as a template. You should be able to download it and continue working on it. For this, I would preferably like an offline house planning software that is widely used and/or whose file formats can be opened and edited by other house planners. If necessary, an online house planning software would also be acceptable, provided you can invite an unlimited number of other users to share the project with (and that they can work on it without unintentionally altering it for other users).
Of course, in a "volunteer capacity," I cannot create such templates for multiple programs but only for one with as wide a distribution as possible. Which one that would be does not matter to me, as I would have to learn any of them first.
Which house planning software would you recommend for this purpose?
Just visit the SH3D homepage. Under the "Gallery" section, you will find various example apartments/houses. To try out an example, simply download it and open it with Sweet Home 3D. Then you can work with it as if it were your own design—more or less what you have in mind. There are also many users in the forum who share their house plans as downloads.
Steffi33 schrieb:
Visit the SH3D homepage. Under the “Gallery” section, you’ll find various example apartments/houses. To try out an example, simply download it and open it with Sweet Home 3D. Then you can work with it as if it were your own design—roughly what you have in mind. There are also many users in the forum who share their house plans as downloads. To avoid any misunderstanding: the elephant doesn’t need this for themselves but wants to make it available to others so people don’t keep running into the literally same unfavorable walls.
For now, thank you for the feedback. I am still gathering some more information and will address each point individually later.
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hampshire27 May 2021 23:56Well, then there would still be grid paper drawings to print out…
kbt09 schrieb:I didn’t find that very demanding. It would of course be better to have output using 3D printers, with stackable, floor-by-floor scalable models.
@hampshire ... but that already puts you in the semi-professional range 😉.
First of all, thanks again to everyone – especially it would be nice if some of the "silent readers" also became active contributors. Now, as promised, I want to respond to some suggestions:
Regarding interior design, I hadn’t really thought about it since I primarily want to provide users with the shell construction "pre-digested," but the point is of course somewhat relevant: users should be able to continue working on the files themselves and not have to switch to different software later for carpets and curtains. I prefer to enter data mainly in 2D and would very much like not to have to guide the mouse with micrometer precision just so that real-world dimensions in scale 1:x turn out as "whole" numbers. This is what annoys me most in amateur plans: when upper-floor walls are offset by two-point-something centimeters from those on the ground floor, just because it was clicked that way (Parkinson’s law precision). I think clearly in whole multiples of 8cm (3 inches) and ultimately don’t want to design walls with botched cavities, which I always complain about ;-)
Integration of building services, yes, the program should later be able to add and vary these features according to the user’s preferences. My sample houses should ideally only include such elements as neutral black boxes – I do not intend to take a position on any particular heating philosophy (as mentioned, mostly the shell construction, which the user then "refines" themselves), so I will not explicitly include the Binford 6100 heat pump, for example. Some walls I want to create from the outset as movable objects, notably typical option walls such as those between Child 1 and Child 2, bedroom and dressing room, kitchen and pantry or similar. From my planner’s perspective, a wall develops in three stages: position, thickness, and material.
Rotating and mirroring, yes, I hope the programs agree with me that these are absolute basic features. Staircases, also a very good point: after all, the "model houses" should also be useful for those home builders who belong to the "XXL ceiling height faction," which has a significant impact on stair design.
“Scalability” is generally a central issue because it should be a help for people with very different tastes, and not just produce houses for 11ant or Nordlys ;-)
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Baranej schrieb:
I find HomeByMe better just for interior design (including decoration, etc.).
hampshire schrieb:
Clear 2D visualization, integration of building services, entering dimensions not only by mouse,
kbt09 schrieb:
The easy modification of preset floor plans, rotating, mirroring, etc., and a good staircase editor
Regarding interior design, I hadn’t really thought about it since I primarily want to provide users with the shell construction "pre-digested," but the point is of course somewhat relevant: users should be able to continue working on the files themselves and not have to switch to different software later for carpets and curtains. I prefer to enter data mainly in 2D and would very much like not to have to guide the mouse with micrometer precision just so that real-world dimensions in scale 1:x turn out as "whole" numbers. This is what annoys me most in amateur plans: when upper-floor walls are offset by two-point-something centimeters from those on the ground floor, just because it was clicked that way (Parkinson’s law precision). I think clearly in whole multiples of 8cm (3 inches) and ultimately don’t want to design walls with botched cavities, which I always complain about ;-)
Integration of building services, yes, the program should later be able to add and vary these features according to the user’s preferences. My sample houses should ideally only include such elements as neutral black boxes – I do not intend to take a position on any particular heating philosophy (as mentioned, mostly the shell construction, which the user then "refines" themselves), so I will not explicitly include the Binford 6100 heat pump, for example. Some walls I want to create from the outset as movable objects, notably typical option walls such as those between Child 1 and Child 2, bedroom and dressing room, kitchen and pantry or similar. From my planner’s perspective, a wall develops in three stages: position, thickness, and material.
Rotating and mirroring, yes, I hope the programs agree with me that these are absolute basic features. Staircases, also a very good point: after all, the "model houses" should also be useful for those home builders who belong to the "XXL ceiling height faction," which has a significant impact on stair design.
“Scalability” is generally a central issue because it should be a help for people with very different tastes, and not just produce houses for 11ant or Nordlys ;-)
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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