ᐅ Planning Recessed Lighting for Hallway and Wardrobe – Tips

Created on: 4 Oct 2020 11:12
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Shiny86
Hello,

could you please help me with the placement and selection of recessed ceiling downlights?

I get the impression that some users here have a lot of knowledge. This is a bit overwhelming for me.

It concerns recessed downlights in the precast concrete ceiling, whose positions I need to determine before the ceiling is installed. The holes cost 130 Euro each without the fixtures. I find that quite expensive and therefore don’t want to go overboard with spotlights in the house.

I would like to have recessed lights only in the ground floor hallway and cloakroom. I want good illumination and don’t want to plan too many or too few. I want to be on the safe side!

I deliberately don’t call them spots, because I don’t want directional lighting. As I have learned from posts here, I want a wider beam angle and therefore floodlights. Which manufacturers are good for this? I was thinking dimmable, as I do not plan any other lighting in the hallway besides the recessed downlights.

How would you position the lights, and how many do I need?

The hallway is 5.47 m (18 feet) long from the front door to the living room wall. The dimension from the utility room wall to the end of the cloakroom / WC wall is 4.31 m (14 feet). The wardrobe cabinets probably go up to the ceiling, which changes the center of the room. I read that when planning lighting, the room center is not defined wall to wall but from the cabinet front to the opposite wall.

Thank you very much in advance!!!

Attached is an idea of mine. Does this work like this?

Floor plan of a detached house with living, dining, kitchen, hallway and terrace.


Floor plan of a residential building: hallway, kitchen, dining area, WC, stairwell, entrance area.
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Shiny86
15 Oct 2020 17:15
Sorry, I meant the mounting pot including wiring already costs 130 euro. Honestly, I don’t know the size of the mounting pot used. What size is recommended or common? Then I could find out.
K1300S15 Oct 2020 17:31
For this purpose, the flush-mounted boxes from Kaiser Elektro (HaloX) are commonly used. They come in various sizes and for different construction methods (cast-in-place concrete, precast concrete panels, etc.), although—naturally for cost reasons—the smaller versions (180 mm diameter (7 inches)) are usually chosen. The larger version (250 mm (10 inches)) offers more flexibility in selecting the spotlights, but you can find quite a few options that fit with the 180 mm size as well.

However, you should discuss with your electrician not only to wire the flush-mounted boxes but also to cut or drill the correct hole after plastering (with the appropriate diameter or the suitable rectangular dimensions for the selected spotlights).
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Shiny86
15 Oct 2020 21:51
Thank you! Can you recommend a manufacturer for floodlights?
K1300S15 Oct 2020 22:25
We used ones from Illuxtron at the time, but nowadays there are so many suppliers that it’s really hard to keep track. In addition, some very affordable suppliers nowadays are actually quite good. Most parts come from China anyway, even at higher prices.
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Shiny86
16 Oct 2020 15:05
Oh man. I don’t even know what I want!
I’m already dreaming about spotlights and electrical planning at night.
I think it would make sense to use spotlights as the main lighting in the bathrooms upstairs.

Does it make sense like in the picture?
Of course, I’ll need to add dimensions in the next step. But for now, it’s just an idea...

Additionally, I would install illuminated mirrors in both bathrooms.

How far should spotlights be placed from the wall above the washbasin to avoid casting shadows?


Grundriss eines Wohnraums mit Bad, DU/BAD, Türen, Wänden und roten Markierungen.
K1300S16 Oct 2020 15:25
If you are going for illuminated mirrors anyway, they would eliminate the shadows. However, I would generally suggest distributing the spotlights more evenly, not clustered so tightly in the middle of the large bathroom. For the sake of symmetry, perhaps five instead of six would be better.

In our similarly sized bathroom, we also have six spotlights that provide a nicely even light, either soft or "dazzlingly bright" (as mentioned here before). I like it.